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post #226 of 321
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

Do you know how the R/80's sound signature compares to the DJ100? I wonder if the R/80 and old TD/80 share the same drivers.
I prefer neutral or very slightly above neutral bass. Slightly forward mids are a bonus. If I don't like it I can at least use it's pads on my DJ100 biggrin.gif
So far the only cheap (under $50) Koss headphones i've liked are the UR-55, KSC75 and the Porta Pro somewhat. I miss the old TNT/55. I think that used the KSC35 driver perhaps.

I think the R/80 are better than the DJ100; they fit better/are more comfortable, they have a more balanced and warm sound versus the DJ100 (less midrange honkytonk), and a better soundstage (although it's still relatively congested compared to much higher end mdoels). Build quality is probably not quite up to par, and the packaging is very much not up to snuff. But at half to a third the price (especially if we're comparing to the TBSE), very good indeed.
post #227 of 321
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I don't know about that man. I have both and the 235's pads are larger than the HD202's. The 235's pads fit all the way around my ears while the HD202's don't (not even close), though you can fit the back half of the pads around the back of your ears while having the front half of the pads rest on the front half of your ears / earlobe area. In this sense they're about 50% circumaural while the 235's pads are about 90% circumaural and 100% if you have small to medium sized ears.

 

Also, the 235's pads are nice and comfy and are of relatively high quality while I found the HD202 pads to be about as bad as it gets when it comes to quality and comfort (the same goes for every other < $40 headphone I've tried aside from 235).

 

But I agree, so far of the cans I've tried the Beyerdynamic DT 235 would absolutely be my choice for the most underrated headphone. More here.

 

Have you tried actually putting the HD-202 pads on the DT-235? They're about the same size as the Maxell DHP-II and I think they stretch a bit when put on the DT-235. I haven't used either in a long time.

I'm willing to bet only 10% of people out there would find the DT-235 to be circumaural. Those pads are so tiny! And I thought the Creative Aurvana Live pads were small...

 

Here's some pictures I took a long time ago. Based on memory the DHP-II pads are the same size as the HD-202 pads. HD-202 pads fit on the DHP-II perfectly.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/524693/worlds-most-comfortable-ugly-and-cheap-headphones-dt-235-mod

 

BTW I've found that when you make the DT-235 around ear with some pads, it makes them too bassy. There's another mod that can be done to fix that.

post #228 of 321
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

Have you tried actually putting the HD-202 pads on the DT-235? They're about the same size as the Maxell DHP-II and I think they stretch a bit when put on the DT-235. I haven't used either in a long time.

I'm willing to bet only 10% of people out there would find the DT-235 to be circumaural. Those pads are so tiny! And I thought the Creative Aurvana Live pads were small...

 

Here's some pictures I took a long time ago. Based on memory the DHP-II pads are the same size as the HD-202 pads. HD-202 pads fit on the DHP-II perfectly.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/524693/worlds-most-comfortable-ugly-and-cheap-headphones-dt-235-mod

 

BTW I've found that when you make the DT-235 around ear with some pads, it makes them too bassy. There's another mod that can be done to fix that.

 

Yeah I suspected the HD202 pads might stretch a bit when putting them on the 235. I was about to try it and then I remembered I gave the HD202's to a friend (they sound like ***** so I had no use for them haha).

 

It all depends on the size of your ears I think, but the HD202 pads are small and oval and no one's ears are oval shaped so good luck getting those to fit around your ears (though putting them on the 235 might make them more ear-shaped). However, the only thing I despise more than pleather is the vinyl-on-cloth type ear pads like the HD202s have-- they're uncomfortable and after a few months of use the vinyl-ish covering starts peeling off (see image below as an example). Those kind of pads are just plain rubbish IMO. I'd take the 235 velour pads any day.

 

I agree that the 235 pads are pretty small and won't be circumaural for everyone but for me they fit all the way around my ears, just barely, thanks to being perfectly ear-shaped.

 

post #229 of 321

Sennheiser hd 449

Ultrasone HFI 580

 

 

post #230 of 321
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet but the German Maestro GMP 8.35 D is a very underrated can. Balanced, neutral, comfortable, circumaural and just as isolating as the HD25. Not to mention, unbreakable.
post #231 of 321
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Don't know if it's been mentioned yet but the German Maestro GMP 8.35 D is a very underrated can. Balanced, neutral, comfortable, circumaural and just as isolating as the HD25. Not to mention, unbreakable.

 

But you're selling them confused_face%281%29.gif

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Selling them because I just can't afford them any longer. Doesn't detract from them being a great headphone that's very underrated. I'm ok with my HD25 for portable use (I'm kind of biased to their sound sig even with their imperfections, and they have slightly more bass slam that makes it good in a noisy NYC subway train) but the GMPs extend lower in the bass, offering better detail and are not as peaky in the treble as the HD25. The mids are also better and the headphone has a more spacious sound. The GMPs are still the better-sounding headphones to my ears. If I could keep them I would, but it would be overkill for me as I'm still trying to figure out which other headphones I should sell next.


Edited by roma101 - 9/28/12 at 11:53am
post #233 of 321

Denon HP700, barely any1 uses/know/tested them, yet they sound a fair bit above their price range, suprisingly good and open sounding for what your mind would expect in such a compact closed size. A slight midbass emphasis with a snappy & textured & punchy bass without any midrange bleed while otherwise nicely balanced all way through (slightly lacking very deep bass extension though) with ever so tiny bit emphasis in the highs too. Great soundstage and imaging, forward and really clear mids & highs (yea mids are more forward than the Dxxx line), for my taste I had wanted a bit better sub-bass extension though.

 

Another one would be the Fischer Audio FA-011.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/28/12 at 12:03pm
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Scosche rh1056m Nuff said!!!!!!!!!
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Scosche rh1056m Nuff said!!!!!!!!!

thats like saying "nothing said"

post #236 of 321
Yeah I know I'm new but I have spent close to two thousand dollars on headphones and I've heard a lot as a matter of fact I'm buying a new pair as we speak look I'm not an expert but for the money I've spent I think these sound just as good as audio technica ath m-50 but with superior mids and voices at 108.99 at Walmart.com you can't go wrong........lol
post #237 of 321
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

Denon HP700, barely any1 uses/know/tested them, yet they sound a fair bit above their price range, suprisingly good and open sounding for what your mind would expect in such a compact closed size. A slight midbass emphasis with a snappy & textured & punchy bass without any midrange bleed while otherwise nicely balanced all way through (slightly lacking very deep bass extension though) with ever so tiny bit emphasis in the highs too. Great soundstage and imaging, forward and really clear mids & highs (yea mids are more forward than the Dxxx line), for my taste I had wanted a bit better sub-bass extension though.

Another one would be the Fischer Audio FA-011.

Aren't the HP700 discontinued along with the rest of the other Denon models though? frown.gif
post #238 of 321
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Aren't the HP700 discontinued along with the rest of the other Denon models though? frown.gif

 

Maybe, would be a shame altough not suprised as I don't think HP700 sells very well, if it got the proper "hype" around it like Dsnuts is an expert on (didn't mean it in a bad way) it would definitely pick up fast popularity wise, altough it does have a bit less than ideal comfort due to on-ear but the clamping force is very suitable and light though so it's not a big deal really. It REALLY suprised me on the soundstage part, no way I belived it could be closed but opening it up I found 5 small holes placed on the sides though so it wasn't completely closed but the holes were like very tiny and very unnoticable unless opening them up so it still isolated very well and didn't leak much at all either.

 

On an somewhat objective (but still my subjective) rating I'd rate sound quality wise the HP700 is about ~$250 worth disregarding my personal tastes, at lowest you can/could pick up these headphones for like $100 off amazon I think but in europe it costed more like 130~145 EUR.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/5/12 at 10:27am
post #239 of 321

Philips SHP2000 at $12.

I know, everybody says of every phone that it's the best, but at least, you wont find something like this at this price range. Closed phone, 2m. cable, extended bass, great highs, laidback midds. 

It's just perfect for folk and ROCK. 

I just recommend to try it, the price wont hurt you and it's amazing. 

post #240 of 321

Are these philips circumaural? 

I mean, how big is the pad space.

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