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post #106 of 315
anything from koss is pretty much under-rated. they're stuff is pretty boss,especially the 4AA/4AAA. they actually brought them back too for their high demand. i remember liking their old stuff. never heard much of their current stuff out.
post #107 of 315
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I think someone should point out that ryumatsuba graphs (which is where the Roland graph comes from) are HEAVILY smoothed/compensated - it's not to say they're not worth viewing, but most headphones look fairly flat in those graphs. redface.gif
post #108 of 315
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post

I think someone should point out that ryumatsuba graphs (which is where the Roland graph comes from) are HEAVILY smoothed/compensated - it's not to say they're not worth viewing, but most headphones look fairly flat in those graphs. redface.gif

 

Yep, to give you guys an idea of how smoothed out they are, here are the XB700's.

mdr-xb700_f.gif

 

So... Yeah.

post #109 of 315
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post

I think someone should point out that ryumatsuba graphs (which is where the Roland graph comes from) are HEAVILY smoothed/compensated - it's not to say they're not worth viewing, but most headphones look fairly flat in those graphs. redface.gif

 

Good to know. I did notice before that the graph goes in big 20dB steps as well, so yeah. Not that graphs being a flat line is what it's all about or something, it was just a little bit surprising when I first saw it, haha. Still sounds like an interesting underrated headphone from the few subjective impressions I found. tongue.gif

post #110 of 315

so thats why the ex1000 in that website is dead straight flat haha

 

the rh300 sounds more "natural" than the "already natural" cd900st though when i did a quick comparison few months ago

post #111 of 315
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anything from koss is pretty much under-rated.

 

I think that's because almost everything from Koss is fugly.  Koss seems to pursue sound quality the way fugly people cultivate personality.  Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that looks have to be everything (because then you wind up with crap like Beats).  But lemme just put it this way, a personality you want to boink is more interesting than a personality you dont.  smile.gif

post #112 of 315

Okay, I'm just speculating here okay. But I think that there is a significant percentage of the headfi community who have no idea just how good the he400 is in the 300+ category....ph34r.gif

post #113 of 315
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Okay, I'm just speculating here okay. But I think that there is a significant percentage of the headfi community who have no idea just how good the he400 is in the 300+ category....ph34r.gif

 

Yeah, I haven't heard too much in regards to it actually. It and the HE-300 seem to be overshadowed by the HE-500. Perhaps once Amazon gets them in stock, more will try them? I may.

 

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I think that's because almost everything from Koss is fugly.  Koss seems to pursue sound quality the way fugly people cultivate personality.  Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that looks have to be everything (because then you wind up with crap like Beats).  But lemme just put it this way, a personality you want to boink is more interesting than a personality you dont.  smile.gif

 

If purchased a headphone purely based off looks, it would take q-u-i-t-e awhile before I got to the Beats... wink.gif

post #114 of 315
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Originally Posted by Katun View Post

 

If purchased a headphone purely based off looks, it would take q-u-i-t-e awhile before I got to the Beats... wink.gif

 

x2

 

If fugly is what you're after...

post #115 of 315

I'm starting to wonder if Lambda-series Stax models are underrated, if for the sole reason that nine times out of ten, if someone even mentions Stax here outside of the big Stax thread, it's about the SR-007 or SR-009, the really expensive flagship models.

 

Even in Head-Fi's latest buyer's guide, you won't see anything electrostatic until you hit the summit-fi section. Unsurprisingly, there's the SR-009, but there's a big opening in the $600-1,000 price range that could easily accommodate a 'stat setup, amp included.

 

It may just be electrostatics in general being under-the-radar, but even the Koss ESP/950 is getting more recognition now, from the looks of it. (I've got to try one of those some day. Reviews are mixed coming from Lambda fans, but overall, they hold their own very well.)

 

I suppose the real question is "Why does no one consider the electrostatic models that aren't the flagships?" There are some great values to be had buying used ones, especially if you already have a speaker power amp of some sort to power the sets that come with transformer boxes.


Edited by NamelessPFG - 7/13/12 at 7:26pm
post #116 of 315
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I suppose the real question is "Why does no one consider the electrostatic models that aren't the flagships?" There are some great values to be had buying used ones, especially if you already have a speaker power amp of some sort to power the sets that come with transformer boxes.

Because people in general are starting to ignore things that aren't billed as flagships and clad in unbotanium, and I'm seeing this as the result of the migration of computer/tech geeks into the world of headphones. Just an observation, do with it what you will.
post #117 of 315
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unbotanium

 

Metals that aren't based in plant life?  wink.gif

 

For the record, I love my K240s and they've got circa 1973 vinyl earpads.  smile.gif  Though I do admit, that tends to be my least favorite part about them...

post #118 of 315

In my personal experience, a very underrated headphone is the JVC HA-S160, AKA Flats. I see them on store shelves at several box stores over the last year or so and I have yet to see someone in public with them. They are the best budget headphone I've ever heard. People always go for the sonys and the skullcandies.rolleyes.gif

post #119 of 315
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post
Because people in general are starting to ignore things that aren't billed as flagships and clad in unbotanium, and I'm seeing this as the result of the migration of computer/tech geeks into the world of headphones. Just an observation, do with it what you will.

 

Oh, you mean like how headphones that were once flagships suddenly become only "mid-fi" when a new, more expensive flagship appears? (Case in point: Audez'e LCD-2, once the LCD-3 was unveiled.)

post #120 of 315
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

 

Oh, you mean like how headphones that were once flagships suddenly become only "mid-fi" when a new, more expensive flagship appears? (Case in point: Audez'e LCD-2, once the LCD-3 was unveiled.)


HD600 -> HD800 is even a stronger case of this.

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