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post #361 of 402
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

I was comparing NFB-27 balanced vs SA-31 single ended (with NFB-27 as a DAC, in SE) so that reinforce my point.
In the end, all that matters is that you're happy.

Not a matter of happiness [I have not heard the C2 yet obviously].

Just pointing some things out, it's not always black and white and that the differences tend to be smaller in reality than expected :wink: 

 

I am sure we can agree that the SA-31 is a great amp, let's leave it at that. I agree with your points just lowering the magnitude.


Edited by conquerator2 - 6/28/14 at 3:23pm
post #362 of 402

I think I am gonna go with the SA31SE for my HE-560s...

The Compass2, being both a great DAC and amp... Well, DAC is great but amp is slightly edgy, possibly.

The warmer SA31SE should fit pretty well, plus allow for more headroom with weaker sources :]

I'll be using the C2 DAC meanwhile, unless the NFB7 appears in the classifieds for an amazing price.

post #363 of 402

as far as I know the AGD SA-31SE is an amp only, it doesn't have a DAC, right ?

post #364 of 402

Nope.

post #365 of 402

how so, the website states that this product is a "Discrete Preamp / Headphone amp" O.o
PS. I was emailing kingwa about purchasing this amp but I haven't replied yet, I was thinking that I wouldn't have enough cash to buy a DAC if I got this. so confusing -_-

post #366 of 402
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Originally Posted by shayson1357 View Post
 

how so, the website states that this product is a "Discrete Preamp / Headphone amp" O.o
PS. I was emailing kingwa about purchasing this amp but I haven't replied yet, I was thinking that I wouldn't have enough cash to buy a DAC if I got this. so confusing -_-

Yes, it is a discreet amp and preamp but not a DAC [digital to analogue converter].

If you want an all-in-one device, look at the NFB11, NFB15, NFB 10.33, Compass2, NFB28, NFB27 or Reference 10.32 :}

post #367 of 402
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Originally Posted by shayson1357 View Post
 

how so, the website states that this product is a "Discrete Preamp / Headphone amp" O.o
PS. I was emailing kingwa about purchasing this amp but I haven't replied yet, I was thinking that I wouldn't have enough cash to buy a DAC if I got this. so confusing -_-

I bought my SA-31 from Frank of Toxic cable at a bargain price (cheaper than from Kingwa direct). PM Frank and ask for a price.  I think he still got a few units (they are brand new).

post #368 of 402
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Originally Posted by inter voice View Post
 

I bought my SA-31 from Frank of Toxic cable at a bargain price (cheaper than from Kingwa direct). PM Frank and ask for a price.  I think he still got a few units (they are brand new).

But those are SA31, not SA31SE, correct?

post #369 of 402

PM'd him about 3 hours ago, I'll see what he has to say :)

post #370 of 402
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

But those are SA31, not SA31SE, correct?

You are right it is a SA31 and not 31SE.

 

BUT I have asked Kingwa and he said the difference between 31 and 31SE is just on the volume control.  The SQ of both are the same.  You can upgrade 31 to 31SE by changing two boards costing only USD 30 in total (but excluding postage from China). The swap is easy and no soldering is needed.

 

TBH the volume control of 31 is quite okay to me. I found nothing wrong with it and that is why I did not change the volume control pcb.

post #371 of 402
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Originally Posted by inter voice View Post

You are right it is a SA31 and not 31SE.

BUT I have asked Kingwa and he said the difference between 31 and 31SE is just on the volume control.  The SQ of both are the same.  You can upgrade 31 to 31SE by changing two boards costing only USD 30 in total (but excluding postage from China). The swap is easy and no soldering is needed.

TBH the volume control of 31 is quite okay to me. I found nothing wrong with it and that is why I did not change the volume control pcb.

Good for you wink.gif
Mine is already ordered and paid. Should be shipping early next week.
With 2 1/4 Neutrik headphone outputsand a custom 6/26 gain board wink.gif
post #372 of 402
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Originally Posted by inter voice View Post
 

You are right it is a SA31 and not 31SE.

 

BUT I have asked Kingwa and he said the difference between 31 and 31SE is just on the volume control.  The SQ of both are the same.  You can upgrade 31 to 31SE by changing two boards costing only USD 30 in total (but excluding postage from China). The swap is easy and no soldering is needed.

 

TBH the volume control of 31 is quite okay to me. I found nothing wrong with it and that is why I did not change the volume control pcb.

It is quite slow I found.

The new one is much faster (I owned both).

post #373 of 402

these are the specs for 10.33 amp/dac:
9950MW /  25 ohm 
5950MW /  50 ohm 
 3300MW  /  100 ohm
1150MW / 300 ohm
590MW  /  600 ohm

do you think the SE-31SA is better for the HE-500 headphones or would this one 
be a better deal considering that I have no standalone DAC right now ?

post #374 of 402
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Originally Posted by shayson1357 View Post
 

these are the specs for 10.33 amp/dac:
9950MW /  25 ohm 
5950MW /  50 ohm 
 3300MW  /  100 ohm
1150MW / 300 ohm
590MW  /  600 ohm

do you think the SE-31SA is better for the HE-500 headphones or would this one 
be a better deal considering that I have no standalone DAC right now ?

NFB10.33 is better for you. Additionally, if you want something less warm and more neutral, stretch for the NFB28 :)

post #375 of 402

can't do that much :(
audio-gd already wants 85$ for shipping and another 80 for handling fees( wtf is that ? )

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