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post #31 of 129
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

First issue with the N-ergy that may be a show stopper. The mic/button is starting to stick and this unit not even 1 week old. I also have lost 1 call when the button press wouldn't work to answer the phone.
Sonically these are blissful but will have to see how this button works out. If it's defective I will try a second unit to see if it's a design flaw.

 

My V-Modas stuck for a little while.  It came undone as I used it.  It may be in your best interest to get a replacement through Monster though.  

post #32 of 129
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

First issue with the N-ergy that may be a show stopper. The mic/button is starting to stick and this unit not even 1 week old. I also have lost 1 call when the button press wouldn't work to answer the phone.
Sonically these are blissful but will have to see how this button works out. If it's defective I will try a second unit to see if it's a design flaw.

Try some compressed air!

post #33 of 129
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These are new enough I can return them to Walmart for another pair. But I will try the compressed first.

These have a large round button that has felt awkward out of the box but it worked. I am a bit concerned this could be a design flaw but we will see.

I guess if I have to get another pair it will also let me see if this sound I am hearing is consistant from IEM to IEM.
post #34 of 129
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Originally Posted by DaBomb77766 View Post

Try some compressed air!

 

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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

These are new enough I can return them to Walmart for another pair. But I will try the compressed first.
These have a large round button that has felt awkward out of the box but it worked. I am a bit concerned this could be a design flaw but we will see.
I guess if I have to get another pair it will also let me see if this sound I am hearing is consistant from IEM to IEM.

 

Great idea DaBomb...  There has to be space for the air to get in and out though, otherwise, it won't work.  If the button is jammed, the best way to unjam it is to just keep using it until it unjams itself.  It's a painful process though that won't always work :(  Try what you can, if all fails, just exchange it.  

 

On anther note, I am glad to see that Monster isn't doing bass monster any longer :p  

post #35 of 129
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I tried the compressed air and that may have helped a bit. Looking closely at the button it does boil down to a poor design. It is a relatively large round enclosed disc that is sitting on top the actual switch. the disc is a but wobbly so it catches on the sided. I find if I use it carefully it's fine but it would be better if it was either more solidly mounted or better yet if they simply reduced the side of the button.

 

I can tell you this, the sound more than makes up for the button and yes these are not bass monsters AT ALL. They have one of the most pleasing sounds I have heard in a mainstream consumer headphone ever. I may sound like I hyping these a bit and I guess I am. But hell, I have a pair of $300 Sony MDR-7550, a pair of $200 Phonak PFA-122, a pair of $120 JVC FXD80 all on hand and these $69 IEM's are keeping up with them all more or less. Signature wise they are kind of like the MDR-7550 but with better treble. They are not as detailed or fast as the PFE122 but I haven't found many dynamic based IEM's that are. I am not sure how they are achieving it but they are on the airy side while still having a full sound.

post #36 of 129
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

I tried the compressed air and that may have helped a bit. Looking closely at the button it does boil down to a poor design. It is a relatively large round enclosed disc that is sitting on top the actual switch. the disc is a but wobbly so it catches on the sided. I find if I use it carefully it's fine but it would be better if it was either more solidly mounted or better yet if they simply reduced the side of the button.

 

I can tell you this, the sound more than makes up for the button and yes these are not bass monsters AT ALL. They have one of the most pleasing sounds I have heard in a mainstream consumer headphone ever. I may sound like I hyping these a bit and I guess I am. But hell, I have a pair of $300 Sony MDR-7550, a pair of $200 Phonak PFA-122, a pair of $120 JVC FXD80 all on hand and these $69 IEM's are keeping up with them all more or less. Signature wise they are kind of like the MDR-7550 but with better treble. They are not as detailed or fast as the PFE122 but I haven't found many dynamic based IEM's that are. I am not sure how they are achieving it but they are on the airy side while still having a full sound.

 

Try to unjam it.  Buttons like that do have a tendency to jam.  What Monster needs to do is make a larger button contact so it doesn't wobble.  The wobble is what jammed it in the first place.  It's easy to jam, but also easy to unjam.  Unless of course some circuits got disconnected, then you're in trouble :p

post #37 of 129
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After using these a few more days I have decided these are the best IEM in their price range I have heard. If you want a slightly forward midrange that is bright and energetic, with bass that is present but errs on the side of neutral, with a treble that is crisp then you owe it to yourself to give this IEM a try. It has a very pleasant sound stage without coming across as artificial and is comfortable in ear. The only things you need to consider are whether you are OK with lower than normal isolation (as I have used these I have come to realize the isolation is not as good as some of the other IEM's I have on hand) and if you are ok with a shallow fit. Also note that the IEM is designed for a smart phone with it's 3 band jacl so while it will work with regular straight MP3 players and amps you might have to fiddle a bit to get a good connection (sounds weird when not connecting correctly).

 

I have been comparing these to everything I have on hand and they easily compete with every IEM I have ranging from the JVC FX40, FXD80, Sony MDR-7550, Etymotic HF3, and Phonak PFE-122. They are not the most detailed IEM I have owned or own but provide enough detail to make me never feel like I am missing out while smoothing out some of my music that starts to be unpleasant with my best IEM's.

 

In many ways they are an IEM that manages to push the envelope in almost every area without ever quite going over the edge into the "too much" category. This makes them an excellent IEM for a wide variety of music. In my case I am using these for psychodelic rock, classic rock, hard rock, folk, celtic, accoustic music, jazz, country, and all forms of classical music. The only genres I could see some people being disappointed with are things like dubstep.

post #38 of 129

Mr. dweaver you really ruined my night. Or actually i should say you made my night smile.gif. Want to know how, ok i will explain. A week before i got these N-ergy, i was happy with the design with blue and red color scheme, they looked good but when i listened to them ohhh i banged my head to the wall confused_face_2.gif bcoz i paid 40 quids for this here in UK and it sounded terrible for me. i was thinking of returning them because the sound was too bright for me and m not a huge fan of bass but yes a fan of decent sound, thought that burn in might help them so left them for a night but again i was not satisfied with the overall sound. though i dnt have any headphones just using the one that comes with ipod touch but they are ok for me. before these Monster i was planning to buy FOCAL spirit one and still i am saving for them but i thought in the mean while why not to try some in ear phones so bought these N-ergy. well today i thought lets check some review for these and i came across your thread. i read every point you mentioned and was listening to the songs on my Macbook pro lying on my bed and yes with apple earphones, Because these monsters were packed in the box lying in the drawer for 5 days. while reading i thought why not to try them. i was listening to the "careless whispers" with apple's earphones. i tried my monsters with the same song......and and oh my GOD how this could happen they really turned into monster, these are sounding so good now, i dnt know what happened to them in these 5 days but yes i gave them burn in for 2 nights before keeping them in drawer. And yes you are right they are really very comfortable. now i am thinking why for so long i have been using these apple earphones because now i can differentiate that how bad Apple's earphones can sound. its 4 am now and m still listening to them.atsmile.gif oh boy they are worth their money or double or twice the money. i guess after burn in they become balanced though still bright but balanced and yes i really like the mids. they really have mids that m used to ( my hifi setup monitor audio bx2 with marantz amp). and the design compliments my ipod too. Thanks for your thread and your comments. i will write more after a day or two with honest review. 

post #39 of 129
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Glad you started to like them and glad you didn't buy them just off my recommendation. Also glad your hearing them similarly to me. The mids definitely change with burnin or use and all for the better. My only complaint is the iPhone button which is sticky and finicky but sonically I really like these. I may try the Earth Wind and Fire model, but at $200 I think it will have to be one heck of a jump in quality to compete value wise. The Trumpets also look darn cool but at $300 I am not sure I want to bite.
post #40 of 129

nice review dweaver, i have fxd80. This makes me want to try N-Ergy. Sometimes I feel vocal is a bit overwhelmed by the music on FXD. That is why I like 'quiet' songs better on them or songs that does not have many instruments. Does this makes sense?

post #41 of 129
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I know what you mean and that is why I like the nergy, it simply brings the vocals forward, plus I like the treble a bit more than the FXD80 as well. It doesn't isolate as good as the FXD80 though and it's bass is not as heavy (which I prefer). Also it needs a couple days of use or a night or 2 of burnin for the mids to mature and come out.

I was thinking of trying the Gratitude but between some reviews discussing the weight and unwieldiness of the cables and Tinyman's comment about microphonics I think I will take a pass or see if I can audition them at some point rather than buy and end up selling for a loss or eat shipping costs if I decide to send back.
post #42 of 129
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I know what you mean and that is why I like the nergy, it simply brings the vocals forward, plus I like the treble a bit more than the FXD80 as well. It doesn't isolate as good as the FXD80 though and it's bass is not as heavy (which I prefer). Also it needs a couple days of use or a night or 2 of burnin for the mids to mature and come out.

I was thinking of trying the Gratitude but between some reviews discussing the weight and unwieldiness of the cables and Tinyman's comment about microphonics I think I will take a pass or see if I can audition them at some point rather than buy and end up selling for a loss or eat shipping costs if I decide to send back.

Definitely try before you buy. I absolutely love the sig on them. They would be what I normally use if it wasn't for the Microphonics/comfort issues frown.gif


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post #43 of 129
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Sure wish you could try the N-ergy Tinyman I would love your comparison between both. Not sure where you live but if in the US or Canada a Bestbuy or Walmart should have them and they both offer hassle free return policies.
post #44 of 129
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Sure wish you could try the N-ergy Tinyman I would love your comparison between both. Not sure where you live but if in the US or Canada a Bestbuy or Walmart should have them and they both offer hassle free return policies.

 

I may try to get a pair after the Inspiration.  IDK when the Inspiration will come in if they do.  I live in the US, but am a broke college student :p

post #45 of 129
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tried the Ncredible Ntune today and NOT THE SAME!!! and not in a good way... Sloppy heavy Bass, recessed mids (OK this area is likely to improve but alot worse the the Nergy was out of the box) and the treble was just recessed and blahhhh. No similarity in signatures AT ALL! So after a 20 minute listen in my car I simply returned them... I don't feel like I owe any manufacturer my time if I don't think their product is worth anything and this wasn't worth my time.

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