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post #16 of 31

My 2 cents.

 

Audeze LCD2 rev2 > Schiit Lyr w 1964 Amprex USN-CEP > Schiit Bifrost.... S/PDIF Optical >MacBook Pro Retina

Mac Mini with Promise Pegasus R4 4T RAID.

 

I have not tried Audionirvana Plus.

All the others ..yes.

 

I have the full license of Amarra for my room system and I like it.

I purchased another license for my can system until I discovered it doesn't work with shared libraries.

Sonic credited the purchase.

 

This is a big problem because I can't get iTunes to create a local library from a remote NAS.  Some of the content is index and some isn't.

I can't put 1T of music on 4 Macs

 

BitPerfect sounded OK to me but has the same limitations with shared libraries.

I thought that Pure Music had a very harsh sound compared to Ammara.

Lastly, Fidelia.  IMO the music sounded neutered.  Mush.  All personality was gone.

 

I've been too bashed in to try Audionirvana yet.

Will it work with streaming?

post #17 of 31

I have set sound output to Airplay in Audio MIDI Setup utility to stream all sound outputs in Mac OS 10.8.2 on iMac to latest generation of Apple TV. iTunes 10.7 work properly but not Audirvana Plus. Since Audirvana Plus bypasses many higher layers of audio processing in Mac OS X (direct/integer mode), I guess that is the reason why it does not work.

 

My Synology Diskstation DS212 NAS come with iTunes server and Audio Station to play song files hosted on the NAS in local LAN and external WAN through cloud service. In my home wireless network, I make use of Sonos zone players to distribute music from the NAS throughout the house thus no need of support from the NAS (just function as SMB file server).

post #18 of 31

The optical S/PDIF of AppleTV and the latest Airport Express do not support 24bit 96kHz

 

iTunes can play the files fine.  I'ts BitPerfect, Ammara, etc. that can't

post #19 of 31

Sorry I have missed Airplay setting of Preferred Audio Device option in Audio System window for Audirvana Plus. It does work with Airplay streaming from iMac to Apple TV perfectly. Apparently the developer has built support for all types of audio devices within the application and setting in Apple Audio MIDI setup has no effect on this application.

This application operates truly independent of many software layers in Mac OS X.

 

You are right, Amarra sounds warmer than Pure Music though I did not sense any high frequency harshness from speaker output. I guess there are differences among different models of headphone and speaker (in term of frequency response and sound signature).

post #20 of 31

There are always tradeoffs.

 

I like the AppleTV / Airport Express (A Lot) but I want 24/96.  If that was there I think I'd Almost be banked.  I suspect the library might be a shared config.

 

Both Amarra HiFi and Full Amarra will not play streamed/shared libraries.  I thought they did until I notices that the "blue" Amarra wasn't there and that iTunes was playing a file from a remote library.  Switch to a local iTunes library.... Blue light comes on.

 

This is the same behavior with BitPerfect.

 

I just looked at DSM and the show that the NAS creates a shared library.  This would be out too.

 

Then I found this article on setting up iTunes on NAS.  I had some success with this and I'm going to try again.  I believe if the iTunes library index is local Amarra will work.

 

My question with Audionirvana.  Will it play files from a shared library?

Thanks

post #21 of 31

Audirvana Plus can operate in either standalone or iTunes integration mode. In iTunes integration mode, whatever song file can be played in iTunes should be available to Audirvana Plus as well. I guess the best way is to download trail version (with full functionality for a month) from following site and try it out.

 

http://audirvana.com

post #22 of 31
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Originally Posted by Iamnothim View Post

My 2 cents.

 

Audeze LCD2 rev2 > Schiit Lyr w 1964 Amprex USN-CEP > Schiit Bifrost.... S/PDIF Optical >MacBook Pro Retina

Mac Mini with Promise Pegasus R4 4T RAID.

 

I have not tried Audionirvana Plus.

All the others ..yes.

 

I have the full license of Amarra for my room system and I like it.

I purchased another license for my can system until I discovered it doesn't work with shared libraries.

Sonic credited the purchase.

 

This is a big problem because I can't get iTunes to create a local library from a remote NAS.  Some of the content is index and some isn't.

I can't put 1T of music on 4 Macs

 

BitPerfect sounded OK to me but has the same limitations with shared libraries.

I thought that Pure Music had a very harsh sound compared to Ammara.

Lastly, Fidelia.  IMO the music sounded neutered.  Mush.  All personality was gone.

 

I've been too bashed in to try Audionirvana yet.

Will it work with streaming?

 

Can you mount the iTunes folder on the NAS on your Mac? Then you can hold down the Option key when you open iTunes and select the library on the network-mounted disk. That will work with any of the programs as far as I know. The only problem with this is that you can only do it on one computer at a time. 

post #23 of 31
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

Can you mount the iTunes folder on the NAS on your Mac? Then you can hold down the Option key when you open iTunes and select the library on the network-mounted disk. That will work with any of the programs as far as I know. The only problem with this is that you can only do it on one computer at a time. 

I will be giving that a try.
Thank you very much.
post #24 of 31

There is nothing like having something on your table for 2 months and discovering it can do something really really awesome. I am talking about the Audirvana Plus and iTunes integration mode. You get all the Album Art work and organisation iTunes provide and all the Audio goodness of Audirvana. Basically iTunes becomes your front end (Graphical User Interface) and Audirvana is the backend (Providing the best music reproduction and filters). Also you can control your music through the iPad Remote App. The implementation/integration is seamless. Unlike the ugly Pure music interface that covers iTunes. Another good solution is Sonic Studio Amarra, but have not tried it.

post #25 of 31

This is so much money to pay for audirvana for something I always took for granted in windows as being free (foobar2000). Who would actually pay that much for it?

post #26 of 31
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Originally Posted by Ryu1 View Post
 

This is so much money to pay for audirvana for something I always took for granted in windows as being free (foobar2000). Who would actually pay that much for it?

Me. With pleasure.

I can't say there is any science behind it but Audirvana sounds the best to me.

Personal,subjective opinion but for me I'm happy to pay it.

post #27 of 31

Ive also payed for Audirvana and I dont regret it. ;)

post #28 of 31

I used all three extensively and my conclusion is Audirvana is the superior player by far. Bitperfect is mainly for auto sample rate switching. Fidelia was quite decent I used it for a long time for flac files. But Audirvana sounds excellent, works with iTunes library and supports SACD(DSD) and is fully multichannel capable. A must have for any music lover with a mac.

post #29 of 31

I use Bitperfect with iTunes, optical out to my DAC. I really like how it can provide sample rate switching on the fly with exclusive mode, then I can turn Bitperfect off at anytime. Plus I'd rather use iTunes for organizing my music, it has come a loooong way since its early days of inception; converting FLAC to AIFF is too easy with XLD as well and it transfers any metadata.

 

I've tried Audirvana, wasn't all impressed with it and it's price compared to Bitperfect wasn't justified for me.

 

Sound quality wise, both Bitperfect and Audirvana sounded the same to me. Then again I wasn't doing any sample rate conversion so the music should have by-passed CoreAudio anyways.

post #30 of 31
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Originally Posted by CJs06 View Post
 

I use Bitperfect with iTunes, optical out to my DAC. I really like how it can provide sample rate switching on the fly with exclusive mode, then I can turn Bitperfect off at anytime. Plus I'd rather use iTunes for organizing my music, it has come a loooong way since its early days of inception; converting FLAC to AIFF is too easy with XLD as well and it transfers any metadata.

 

I've tried Audirvana, wasn't all impressed with it and it's price compared to Bitperfect wasn't justified for me.

 

Sound quality wise, both Bitperfect and Audirvana sounded the same to me. Then again I wasn't doing any sample rate conversion so the music should have by-passed CoreAudio anyways.

I agree that there is no audible difference with these two players, and the features, like memory play, bypass core audio and sample rate switching are similar.  For me, Audirvana gets the nod because I can use an AU plugin with it, namely a graphic EQ.

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