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post #736 of 981
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

The cheaper TWFK IEM's ($150 or less) come to mind, perhaps Etymotic HF5 with a 75 ohm resistor too, except they're not dynamic drivers.  Then perhaps JVC FXD80 if you like V-shaped (hip-hop, action movies, etc.).

 

My view is... if I could know what I know today, let's say 1.5 years ago, and just wanted to enjoy music (not explore audio, which is different) with high quality dynamic driver IEM's, I think I'd invest first in the Vsonic GR04 (updated version), then second in the CKW1000ANV when I was ready.  They seem like the ideal two IEM's to me, from what I know today.

 

(as such, in that specific view, the GR07 falls into a value void)

 

 

 

The Sony EX600 wins in the high-highs.

 

 


 

In other news my Sony / Ericsson MH1 and MH1C arrived today........................................

 

 

I just ordered the Hifiman RE262 for $99, black friday special price!  The RE272 for $199 is definitely worth considering too I think.

 

 

All I can say right now is the RE272 is like 10 zillion times better than the MH1.  I sortof actually feel had.

I thought you didnt like Hifiman....... 

post #737 of 981
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

If you love sub-bass or bass in general, you can delete the RE272 from your list right now.  However, you can add JVC FXD80 to your list, I just listened to this with it.

thanks for further clarification. I have found that an iem that is proficient in subbass is highly likely to do well in (mid)bass so that tends to be the first criteria I consider in an iem.

Despite that, I personally found the level of subbass on the mh1c to be more than preferred, which is why I was asking for those clarifications.

 

I have had the 262 and though I was very very impressed by its technical prowess and its mids, I had to boost the 30-32 hz band significantly to reach an acceptable level. I take it the 272 is not much of a departure from that sound.

 

Could  you estimate the decibel difference in the subbass region between those hifimans and the gr07mkII if you have heard both?

If not, no worries. I'll be in possession of some funds in the near future to  hear the gr07 mkII myself.

 

P.S. While I haven't heard the FXD80, the only thing that turned me away from the fxt90 were the harsh highs (even after burn in).


Edited by atomikn00b - 11/24/12 at 10:24pm
post #738 of 981
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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post
Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Yes it does have fairly warm sound and good instrument separation.  I don't think I'm very good at listening for dynamic range, do you mean from quiet to loud in a good classical recording, or do you mean fast volume changes, like a fast quiver of +-0.5db within a single second, on a violin string, in a human voice, and in synthetic sounds?

 

Actually both of your examples describe dynamic range, it's the difference between the softest and the loudest sound even when both are produced at the same time. High dynamic range makes music allot more exciting and engaging to my ears. It's not like there are no other interesting choices in the near future (GR08, FXZ100 if it's not V shaped, and a few new dual micro drivers), i'd just like to avoid buying something while it's in FOTM mode ;).

 

I see, I don't tend to notice or listen for the first kind of dynamic range (very soft to very loud), then again, I listen for the 'energy' in the driver, which is most likely intertwined.

 

I listen for quiver and fast volume changes (hyper dynamic range), the RE272 is very good there, perhaps the best I've heard?  You could pick it up now for $199. ;)

 

The FI-BA-SS also had interesting hyper dynamic range, it let you perceive it from afar, like you're not quite inside of it, you're 'seeing' it.

 

 

Originally Posted by veyrongatti View Post

 

I thought you didnt like Hifiman....... 

 

I don't like the RE0, and some of their marketing tactics, that's all.  It used to sell for $199 and "was the best IEM ever, second to none, a true audiophile experience" and all kinds of hype all over head-fi, then it was reduced to $150 and people flipped out, then reduced to an "insane deal" $79, then Fang wrote on his site "we'll never reduce this any further"... well today it's $49.  Lol.

 

Plus, all of their IEM's have narrow soundspace and light bass, it's like some kind of weird trademark.

 

 

Originally Posted by atomikn00b View Post

 

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Despite that, I personally found the level of subbass on the mh1c to be more than preferred, which is why I was asking for those clarifications.

 

I have had the 262 and though I was very very impressed by its technical prowess and its mids, I had to boost the 30-32 hz band significantly to reach an acceptable level. I take it the 272 is not much of a departure from that sound.

 

Could  you estimate the decibel difference in the subbass region between those hifimans and the gr07mkII if you have heard both?

If not, no worries. I'll be in possession of some funds in the near future to  hear the gr07 mkII myself.

 

P.S. While I haven't heard the FXD80, the only thing that turned me away from the fxt90 were the harsh highs (even after burn in).

 

The Vsonic GR07 MK2 has more sub-bass than the RE272 (like, 15% more?).

 

The FXD80 has tighter, cleaner and higher quality sub-bass than the MH1 / MH1C. 

 

The FXT-90 has hardness and glare in the highs, the FXD80 has brilliance.

post #739 of 981
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 fast volume changes (hyper dynamic range)

 

= transients?

post #740 of 981
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

 

The Vsonic GR07 MK2 has more sub-bass than the RE272 (like, 15% more?).

 

 

I think it's a good bit more than that. Here's what I thought about the 272:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/563095/hifiman-re-272-review/225#post_8661306

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/563095/hifiman-re-272-review/240#post_8675482

post #741 of 981
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

I think it's a good bit more than that. Here's what I thought about the 272:

 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

If I were to draw what I'm hearing in the RE272 the form of a human being, I'd draw an extremely beautiful but flat-chested woman.

 

I thought it was Arnold Schwarznegger smoking a cigar?

 

 

 

 

...or it is, a blue feathered dove flying above a smoky city at nightfall, descending into the valleys of high-tech glass and concrete, pounding thin melodic quivers of pink cherry hurricane blossoms until the nectar from from the secret lotus runs down Athenas silky soft inner thigh...

 

A honeysuckle of porkroast and southern comfort, full of energy like it lifts you into antarctic blizzards of ice shrapnels, piercing your inner core...

post #742 of 981

MESMERIZED  ^^^ as always k! 

post #743 of 981
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

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I thought it was Arnold Schwarznegger smoking a cigar?

 

 

 

 

...or it is, a blue feathered dove flying above a smoky city at nightfall, descending into the valleys of high-tech glass and concrete, pounding thin melodic quivers of pink cherry hurricane blossoms until the nectar from from the secret lotus runs down Athenas silky soft inner thigh...

 

A honeysuckle of porkroast and southern comfort, full of energy like it lifts you into antarctic blizzards of ice shrapnels, piercing your inner core...

 

Nope, just a really pretty girl with no boobs

post #744 of 981
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

I thought it was Arnold Schwarznegger smoking a cigar?

...or it is, a blue feathered dove flying above a smoky city at nightfall, descending into the valleys of high-tech glass and concrete, pounding thin melodic quivers of pink cherry hurricane blossoms until the nectar from from the secret lotus runs down Athenas silky soft inner thigh...

A honeysuckle of porkroast and southern comfort, full of energy like it lifts you into antarctic blizzards of ice shrapnels, piercing your inner core...

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Nope, just a really pretty girl with no boobs

Lol! To both of you!
post #745 of 981
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Looking back at my GR07 MK2 review, it does seem a bit harsh, but I never really exalt / hype any IEM's, I'm always open to their flaws as well, y'know.

 

Another thing is I think it could be a quite good musicians IEM, for monitoring!  In that sense, the SE535 is overrated.  I'll need to add that to the "part II" of my review, whenever I feel like extending it a little.

post #746 of 981
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

I see, I don't tend to notice or listen for the first kind of dynamic range (very soft to very loud), then again, I listen for the 'energy' in the driver, which is most likely intertwined.

 

I listen for quiver and fast volume changes (hyper dynamic range), the RE272 is very good there, perhaps the best I've heard?  You could pick it up now for $199. ;)

 

The FI-BA-SS also had interesting hyper dynamic range, it let you perceive it from afar, like you're not quite inside of it, you're 'seeing' it.

 

 

Well, both of these IEMs have a very good reputation but they roll off at the lows. I am not a basshead but my hearing goes very low, so when there is no subbass i feel like i only listen to half the sound. So while i don't like phones with too much bass (especially midbass) i wouldn't spend this kind of money on IEMs that can't go bellow 35-30Hz. Thanks for your suggestions though :). Maybe the GR08 will be better at dynamics, or the new JVCs might be less V shaped than the FXD line.

 

 

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Nope, just a really pretty girl with no boobs

 

 

post #747 of 981
Speaking about cable.....GR07 MK2K :P


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post #749 of 981
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Originally Posted by semperfi View Post

Speaking about cable.....GR07 MK2K :P

the signature looks familiar. a seller from taobao?

post #750 of 981
nah..I've been browsing on Taobao site and stumbled on this, they charge service to 3 different price in order to change the cable (4 cores, 6 cores and 8 cores) the 8 cores cost a little bit over USD100

seems interesting but I'm just a casual user with no knowledge about cable.

PS.
Not sure if allowed to post link here, anyway...if you can read chinese PM me, I'll give you the link
Edited by semperfi - 11/26/12 at 2:43am
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