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post #721 of 975
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I just ordered the Hifiman RE262 for $99, black friday special price!  The RE272 for $199 is definitely worth considering too I think

 

 

can't believe my eyes .. the re 262 is going for $99!! ..thats about as hi-fidelity value can get ..or may be if they think of bringing down the re 272 to 150 dollars cool.gif...but I think i ll wait for that ..

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or perhaps the re 0 at $49 ??

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Originally Posted by atomikn00b View Post
Originally Posted by kitek

 

All I can say right now is the RE272 is like 10 zillion times better than the MH1.  I sortof actually feel had.

How do you define the "better".

Also, though you are not yet settled on it, let us (or at least me) know how they compare after burn in will you?

 

Sony MH1 / MH1C versus RE272?  The RE272 is better in... imaging, speed, resolution, tonal colour, detail, seperation, hyper-dynamics, cleanliness, driver energy... should I continue?

 

 

The MH1 with it's best synergy, which for me so far is Neutron player on my smartphone with the bass shelf -4 and treble shelf +4, connected to my iBasso external amp, is still definitely something special in itself.

 

After you remove the horrible bass, you can notice the mids and highs are something special, it's like a smooth rainbow up there, vocals are present, highs are present yet inoffensive, it's animated and fun, quite fresh, quite perfect for the average smartphone user.  You can listen to music for hours and enjoy it, that's what they want.

 

At least after you equalize it, it's pretty nice I think.  Kindof ironic since I hardly ever equalize anything, and the hype so far says it has some kind of perfect FR?, I don't know if they're hyping, love low quality b4ss b4ss b4ss b4ss, or they're honestly just tone-deaf.

 

 

Originally Posted by turgid View Post

Kiteki!! the wait was worth it!

 

Brilliant review there ... !

 

Now the GH-ERC-DMS awaits your impressions.. rolleyes.gif

 

Haha, thanks.  I don't think it was that excellent I didn't take any pictures and write as freely as I could have.  I tend to hold back writing what I'm thinking since I associate sound a lot with imagery but my DMS review will be different.

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Originally Posted by turgid View Post

 

can't believe my eyes .. the re 262 is going for $99!! ..thats about as hi-fidelity value can get ..or may be if they think of bringing down the re 272 to 150 dollars cool.gif...but I think i ll wait for that ..

 

I'd love to see the RE272 at $150.  Have you heard the RE262 too?  I didn't like the RE0 btw... the RE252 was nice!

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

Sony MH1 / MH1C versus RE272?  The RE272 is better in... imaging, speed, resolution, tonal colour, detail, seperation, hyper-dynamics, cleanliness, driver energy... should I continue?

 

 

The MH1 with it's best synergy, which for me so far is Neutron player on my smartphone with the bass shelf -4 and treble shelf +4, connected to my iBasso external amp, is still definitely something special in itself.

 

After you remove the horrible bass, you can notice the mids and highs are something special, it's like a smooth rainbow up there, vocals are present, highs are present yet inoffensive, it's animated and fun, quite fresh, quite perfect for the average smartphone user.  You can listen to music for hours and enjoy it, that's what they want.

 

At least after you equalize it, it's pretty nice I think.  Kindof ironic since I hardly ever equalize anything, and the hype so far says it has some kind of perfect FR?, I don't know if they're hyping, love low quality b4ss b4ss b4ss b4ss, or they're honestly just tone-deaf.

 

I should have been more precise. I have absolutely no doubt that the re272 is technically superior on levels the mh1(c) will never even dream of reaching.

My question was more to the sound signature in regards to the balance of subbass, bass, mids, and highs. If you were to put percentages on the focus of each part of the spectrum for each of the two iems, what  would they be?
(An arbitrary example of what I mean is 35:20:25:20)

post #726 of 975
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 Have you heard the RE262 too?

 

nope , given that their overall signature has often been compared to the se 535.. I don't think i should bleed out sweat to find one for audition ....and the se 535 sounds more 'dynamicise' than 'armaturer' to me ..so i ll be more than happy to skip the 2six2

 

the re 272  haunts my iem world a lot.....any news on the re400/re 600 launch ?


Edited by ayaflo - 11/24/12 at 10:41am
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If you were to put percentages on the focus of each part of the spectrum for each of the two iems, what  would they be?
(An arbitrary example of what I mean is 35:20:25:20)

 

that would be somthing like this

 

 

 

 

 : bass

   :mids

  :treble


Edited by ayaflo - 11/24/12 at 11:00am
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^^^^

sorry if that does nt help u but 

trying to go with oppa kiteki style..

post #729 of 975
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Originally Posted by turgid View Post

^^^^

sorry if that does nt help u but 

trying to go with oppa kiteki style..


lol. unfortunately it doesn't.

I'm a numbers guy bigsmile_face.gif

do you mind using the numbers as I described? (subbass:bass:mids:high)

 

or two sets of four pictures comparing those categories for the two?

 

And again. I'm NOT talking about quality.

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Interesting review. The GR07 has always interested me, it has a dynamic driver, it reportedly has great timbre, an even frequency response across the spectrum (including the subbass area), warm sound, big soundstage and good instrument separation. What kept me from buying them were the mixed reports concerning dynamic range. Did you find these lacking in dynamics?

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I am an accountant, Im tryin to forget numbers atleast during the weekends .. dont torture me please.. 

 

the sub bass is nothing with the re 272, nothin as far as i remember, mid-bass is just there not to call it lacking .. to me the whole bass sounds thin and recessed ..i think you wont really see it happening - just like the picture i put up .. i dont think you have seen that before - its beef ularthiyathe, a keralite malabar delicacy

the mids are slightly dry, not very much forward, but forward still in comparison to MH1c and a tad bit thin, they are very clinical sounding though like the highs ..no reference to the picture or may be I forgot the connection .

 

the highs are impeccable refined like arnold with cigar .. superb and full of technical power

 

as far as quantity is concerned .. dont remember to be honest but hope my explanation might help

 

tc


Edited by ayaflo - 11/24/12 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by turgid View Post

I am an accountant, Im tryin to forget numbers atleast during the weekends .. dont torture me please.. 

 

the sub bass is nothing with the re 272, nothin as far as i remember, mid-bass is just there not to call it lacking .. to me the whole bass sounds thin and recessed ..i think you wont really see it happening - just like the picture i put up .. i dont think you have seen that before - its beef ularthiyathe, a keralite malabar delicacy

the mids are slightly dry, not very much forward, but forward still in comparison to MH1c and a tad bit thin, they are very clinical sounding though like the highs ..no reference to the picture or may be I forgot the connection .

 

the highs are impeccable refined like arnold with cigar .. superb and full of technical power

 

as far as quantity is concerned .. dont remember to be honest but hope my explanation might help

 

tc


Thank you. that was very well put. You've pretty much described the quantity.

Unfortunately, the first sentence sealed my opinion of the 272. I'm a subbass lover.

post #733 of 975
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Unfortunately, the first sentence sealed my opinion of the 272. I'm a subbass lover.

 

since we are going off topic here! ..PMd! 

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Originally Posted by SkiesOfAzel View Post

Interesting review. The GR07 has always interested me, it has a dynamic driver, it reportedly has great timbre, an even frequency response across the spectrum (including the subbass area), warm sound, big soundstage and good instrument separation. What kept me from buying them were the mixed reports concerning dynamic range. Did you find these lacking in dynamics?

 

Yes it does have fairly warm sound and good instrument seperation.  I don't think I'm very good at listening for dynamic range, do you mean from quiet to loud in a good classical recording, or do you mean fast volume changes, like a fast quiver of +-0.5db within a single second, on a violin string, in a human voice, and in synthetic sounds?

 

 

Originally Posted by turgid View Post

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the highs are impeccable refined like arnold with cigar .. superb and full of technical power

 

Nice description of the RE272 highs there, a very technical cigar.

 

 

 

Originally Posted by atomikn00b View Post


Thank you. that was very well put. You've pretty much described the quantity.

Unfortunately, the first sentence sealed my opinion of the 272. I'm a subbass lover.

 

If you love sub-bass or bass in general, you can delete the RE272 from your list right now.  However, you can add JVC FXD80 to your list, I just listened to this with it.

 

 

Originally Posted by turgid View Post

 

since we are going off topic here! ..PMd! 

 

No it's ok.  This is an open platform.  I've only seen my theads go off topic when the colour-blind infected 'I am your salvation' type people come around and start trying to tell everyone music is all 1's and 0's.

 

By the way there is a GR07 bass editionout there, can't say I'm interested apart from the candy-cane cables.  All I want to hear from Vsonic now is the GR06 and their future models, like the never-to-be-released GR08, which should compete nicely with the fashion commercial "jewellery for men" AKG K3003, I hope.

 

They think, men spend $x,xxx.xx on watches, let's make them spend that on an IEM with a dynamic driver + TWFK, a little lame if you ask me.

 


 

 

I think I should also mention, most of my listening to the GR07 MK2 was done with my Cirrus CS4398 desktop DAC, a Miu-tech portable amplifier, and iBasso P4 Warbler, all three extensively tweaked for ultimate sound. =)

 

Sounds fine with a smartphone too, though, Xperia Ray here.

post #735 of 975
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

Yes it does have fairly warm sound and good instrument separation.  I don't think I'm very good at listening for dynamic range, do you mean from quiet to loud in a good classical recording, or do you mean fast volume changes, like a fast quiver of +-0.5db within a single second, on a violin string, in a human voice, and in synthetic sounds?

 

 

Actually both of your examples describe dynamic range, it's the difference between the softest and the loudest sound even when both are produced at the same time. High dynamic range makes music allot more exciting and engaging to my ears. It's not like there are no other interesting choices in the near future (GR08, FXZ100 if it's not V shaped, and a few new dual micro drivers), i'd just like to avoid buying something while it's in FOTM mode ;).

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