Vsonic GR07 MK2 - stunning new cable! | bio-cel tech IEM | now with review - see 2nd post - Page 9

Originally Posted by eke2k6  

 

Please start a new thread when you're done so we can have a fresh start. I doubt people will want to dig through 8 pages to find relevant information.

No I want to preserve all the pseudo-science posts, if I start a new thread it'll just happen again right?

There really isn't anything to discuss, they improved the cable pliability, feel, looks, and added more silver for higher conductivity (even if only in theory), the price is exactly the same as the previous model, (no marketing / scam in sight).

I'm happy with the new cable, however hopefully there are more changes versus the previous model, as the 'Vsonic CEO' implied, I can't decipher those changes since I don't have the previous model, I was waiting for the MK2 like Jocelyn, so I'm reviewing the GR07 MK2 alone, and versus other IEM's, I'll post all that in post #2 later.

kThx.

Originally Posted by Freefallr4545 

 

Maybe we can have a discussion on Cable tensile strength, between Copper w/silver VS. Copper w/silver and 2 extra stands of silver. No?

 

EDIT; While we are "waiting" for Kits rev..................but....."the wayayayitin is the hardest part"

Or what your favorite kind of tea and teacup is.

Last night someone tried to steal my motorbike... oh well it costs less than the LCD-3 anyway.  First world problems.

Originally Posted by PseudoStorm 

Hmm, there's no real way to do a double blind test of headphones or IEMs and I don't have either mkII (nor am getting one, at least now) or GR07 measurements. Nor access to the measurement head anymore.

 

Someone care to measure both with the same tips once it arrives? I'd love to see the 6k peak reduced and the minor high bass emphasis gone. That'd make for an excellent product.

How about someone just tells you how harsh it sounds compared to the MK1?  Like goodvibes pointed out to you in post #120 we can't measure everything.

The Sony EX700 is much harsher than the EX600 and that didn't show up in measurements, anywhere, at all, neither does the difference in sound in the EX1000.

If you need everything on paper, or only hear what's on paper via expectation effect, you can start paper-fi.org.

Originally Posted by eke2k6 

 

Actually, I'm not even sure I want the spike reduced. It's what gives the GR07 the magic it has with snares and cymbals

Yes a lot of IEM's have intentional spikes, just look at a lot of the ~$1000 custom IEM's.

Inks & Company complaining / spamming they're not flat all the time is getting old fast.

Originally Posted by tinyman392 

 

+1...  A lot of IEM companies do this.  It creates flavor, but also can emphasize properties.  Etymotic likes to put a spike in their IEMs as well... 

It's not only for flavour, yet to make them sound more realisitc.  If you have a television with weak black levels and contrast ratio, you artificially raise the contrast levels to make it look nicer, IEM's are imperfect mirrors to reality so only an imperfect FR will be closer to perfection, this is 'common sense'.

Yes that is the real science which companies like UE employ, they also did evaluation via listening when developing the UERM with Capitol Studios etc.

They match the FR of every custom IEM they make for uniformity, so every model sounds the same, or close, the sound an IEM makes is a lot more complicated than that though, FR is only a small piece of the puzzle.

Compare the UE700 and UE18Pro at that site, pretty much says it all that the measuring science is still very limited, you can't evidence a lack of evidence, at least not for the paper-fi'ers.

They can continue listening to their Fiio E6 and ER-4 while others enjoy much higher quality sound.

I make a GIF to demonstrate my point.

UE700 versus UE18Pro.

Now stop spamming this thread with useless pseudo-science.