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post #1906 of 1934

Will this be able to power a logitech Z623 or  is it only for headphones?This to laptop then 3.5mm out to Z623?


Edited by miyamoto - 7/21/14 at 6:09am
post #1907 of 1934

I just bought the dragonfly 1.2

I don't have much of experince about DAC/AMP.

I'm facing something strange, yet it can be noraml, so I hope anyone can verify it.

 

when i'm playing some sound test files I noticed some sort of noise at the max volume, one of the most obvious frequency is the 16000hz (16Khz) file https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwgkfpsniuhcbu2/16000hz.wav

 

I'm using windows 7 64-bit and playing throw  foobar2000 using WASAPI event.

windows volume is set to max so as foobar2000.

the noise is so obvious between 0dB and -3dB, and a little bit of noise between -3dB and -4dB.

I have only one headphone ATH-M50 (impedance 38ohm).

please download the test file from here https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwgkfpsniuhcbu2/16000hz.wav

 

 

Is that normal or I got a bad (dysfunctional) Dragonfly 1.2?

 

I bough it from Crutchfield (Audioquest authorized dealer)

 

the dragonfly is connected to USB3.0 which is capable of delivering 900mA.

I tried it on my PC and my laptop with the same result.

 

Another thing, is it advisable to set WASAPI (Hardware buffer event mode) to 0, or it doesn't matter https://www.dropbox.com/s/hob9ntqvyq2u9ur/foobar2000%20setting.jpg

 

I already own Asus Xonar ST, and I think the Dragonfly 1.2 is better than it, later I will post an update.

 

Thank you...

post #1908 of 1934
Quote:
Originally Posted by BA_D_R View Post

I just bought the dragonfly 1.2
I don't have much of experince about DAC/AMP.
I'm facing something strange, yet it can be noraml, so I hope anyone can verify it.

when i'm playing some sound test files I noticed some sort of noise at the max volume, one of the most obvious frequency is the 16000hz (16Khz) file https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwgkfpsniuhcbu2/16000hz.wav

I'm using windows 7 64-bit and playing throw  foobar2000 using WASAPI event.
windows volume is set to max so as foobar2000.
the noise is so obvious between 0dB and -3dB, and a little bit of noise between -3dB and -4dB.
I have only one headphone ATH-M50 (impedance 38ohm).
please download the test file from here https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwgkfpsniuhcbu2/16000hz.wav


Is that normal or I got a bad (dysfunctional) Dragonfly 1.2?

I bough it from Crutchfield (Audioquest authorized dealer)

the dragonfly is connected to USB3.0 which is capable of delivering 900mA.
I tried it on my PC and my laptop with the same result.

Another thing, is it advisable to set WASAPI (Hardware buffer event mode) to 0, or it doesn't matter https://www.dropbox.com/s/hob9ntqvyq2u9ur/foobar2000%20setting.jpg

I already own Asus Xonar ST, and I think the Dragonfly 1.2 is better than it, later I will post an update.

Thank you...
BA_D_R, great choice on the DF1.2. It's a good portable DAC. Enjoy your music my friend.
post #1909 of 1934
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpcans View Post


BA_D_R, great choice on the DF1.2. It's a good portable DAC. Enjoy your music my friend.

bpcans, yes i'm so happy with the DF, my Asus Xonar ST (throw headphone jack, No Gain setting, ASIO) is not loud enough with my ATH-M50

but the DF is loud enough IMHO.

I wish if someone can download the sound test file and try it on his/her own DF to confirm my situation.

Because I'm a kind of guys who buy the things and use it for many years, so I want to be sure that all my gears are optimal, i'm just listening to lossless files, via headphone, so I never use any more features.


Edited by BA_D_R - 7/26/14 at 3:44pm
post #1910 of 1934

I have both the Dragonfly 1.2 and the E17, if I am using my MacBook Pro in my study, I tend to use the optical out into the E17 as a DAC that then goes into my Marantz Amp. However, if I am on the road then I use the Dragonfly straight into my HD600's. Obviously this gives me two signature sounds, but, I am more than happy to use the DF and the Sennheiser's at length when I am writing up reports and chilling after work stuck in a hotel room. I also like using the DF in my MacBook if I am catching up on downloads from iPlayer late at night sitting next to Mrs Rearwing.

post #1911 of 1934
Quote:
Originally Posted by BA_D_R View Post
 

I just bought the dragonfly 1.2

I don't have much of experince about DAC/AMP.

I'm facing something strange, yet it can be noraml, so I hope anyone can verify it.

 

when i'm playing some sound test files I noticed some sort of noise at the max volume, one of the most obvious frequency is the 16000hz (16Khz) file https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwgkfpsniuhcbu2/16000hz.wav

 

I'm using windows 7 64-bit and playing throw  foobar2000 using WASAPI event.

windows volume is set to max so as foobar2000.

the noise is so obvious between 0dB and -3dB, and a little bit of noise between -3dB and -4dB.

I have only one headphone ATH-M50 (impedance 38ohm).

please download the test file from here https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwgkfpsniuhcbu2/16000hz.wav

 

 

Is that normal or I got a bad (dysfunctional) Dragonfly 1.2?

 

I bough it from Crutchfield (Audioquest authorized dealer)

 

the dragonfly is connected to USB3.0 which is capable of delivering 900mA.

I tried it on my PC and my laptop with the same result.

 

Another thing, is it advisable to set WASAPI (Hardware buffer event mode) to 0, or it doesn't matter https://www.dropbox.com/s/hob9ntqvyq2u9ur/foobar2000%20setting.jpg

 

I already own Asus Xonar ST, and I think the Dragonfly 1.2 is better than it, later I will post an update.

 

Thank you...

 

I had an issue with my 1.0 DF and Audioquest replaced the unit with a new one.  Later, I bought the 1.2 version.  I have run at max volume (or what is supposed to be line-level out) with both external amps and headphones (especially HD 650s).

 

If you are hearing obvious distortion, you should try connecting to something else (i.e. external amp or another pair of phones).  If you still hear it, then call Audioquest and arrange for a replacement.  You should NOT hear any distortion from the DF 1.2.

post #1912 of 1934

Here are the results of the Dutch jury concerning the combination of Schiit Wyrd and AudioQuest DragonFly: Cleaner sound with more separation in the finer details. Increased fluidity and a wider sound stage. More definition and punch in the low frequencies. But before, my DragonFly had to completely surrender to the computer's power-supply with little room for capacitors in the small housing. I think it is all in giving the DragonFly a decent power-supply for the first time in its existence.

post #1913 of 1934

Please anyone who have a DragonFly 1.2  ,,,, do me a favor please:

 

 

download this wav file,

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbjmvg7roniwe5r/16000Hz.wav

 

Its 16000Hz (16KHz) sound file, play it throw DragonFly 1.2 and at your player (ex. foobar) move the volume to max also in windows too, and check if you hear any kind of noise.

the file length is only 5 seconds so it's better if you make the player repeating it.

 

Here you can download a video that I did record that is showing the noise that i'm suffering from.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/re93aq3z4iaci3e/VID-20140729-WA0000.mp4

post #1914 of 1934

BA_D_R:

Just had a listen to that 16kHz tone with the Dragonfly 1.2 using 62-ohm Sony MDR-V6 and also 300-ohm Sennheiser HD800.

 

Sounds fine with both. No unusual distortion/noise, just annoying high pitched tone :-)

 

I managed to borrow this unit from my friend, ran some measurements and wrote a review:

 

http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2014/08/measurements-audioquest-dragonfly-v12.html

 

Not bad. It puts up some decent numbers and sound quite good...

post #1915 of 1934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archimago View Post
 

BA_D_R:

Just had a listen to that 16kHz tone with the Dragonfly 1.2 using 62-ohm Sony MDR-V6 and also 300-ohm Sennheiser HD800.

 

Sounds fine with both. No unusual distortion/noise, just annoying high pitched tone :-)

 

I managed to borrow this unit from my friend, ran some measurements and wrote a review:

 

http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2014/08/measurements-audioquest-dragonfly-v12.html

 

Not bad. It puts up some decent numbers and sound quite good...

 

Archimago:

Thank you so much for replying, my Dragonfly 1.2 have that noise with my Ultrasone Signature DJ too, I already got RMA number from AudioQuest.

Thanks again,, Cheers!

post #1916 of 1934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rearwing View Post
 

I have both the Dragonfly 1.2 and the E17, if I am using my MacBook Pro in my study, I tend to use the optical out into the E17 as a DAC that then goes into my Marantz Amp. However, if I am on the road then I use the Dragonfly straight into my HD600's. Obviously this gives me two signature sounds, but, I am more than happy to use the DF and the Sennheiser's at length when I am writing up reports and chilling after work stuck in a hotel room. I also like using the DF in my MacBook if I am catching up on downloads from iPlayer late at night sitting next to Mrs Rearwing.

 

Have you tried pairing the dragonfly with the E17 and bypassing the E17 DAC?

post #1917 of 1934
How would the DF 1.2 compare to the schiit modi/magni stack in terms of sound quality. I have a MacBook Pro.
post #1918 of 1934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi-Fi Guy View Post

How would the DF 1.2 compare to the schiit modi/magni stack in terms of sound quality. I have a MacBook Pro.

I compared Dragonfly 1.0 with Modi both with Little Dot MkIV and HD650. In this setup, DF as a DAC only sounded almost the same as Modi. I'd expect Magni to be better than DF with demanding headphones, but I've never tested it.
I used Mac Mini as a source.
I don't know how much different 1.2 is.
post #1919 of 1934

Ok,

I have the v1.0 dragonfly and the v1.2 dragonfly on Windows 7 with wasapi audio driver outputting at 24bit 96Khz.

I have compared the two and the following can be said:

 

* v1.0 has more bottom end and is fuller and more punchier

* v1.0 is warmer and more analog sounding

* v1.2 has up top clarity and detail with more zing

* v1.2 has less punch on the bottom end and is more digital sounding

 

Which you prefer is up to personal taste but I hope this helps others.

I personally enjoy both of them :)


Edited by XLR8 - 8/17/14 at 10:00pm
post #1920 of 1934
Quote:
Originally Posted by artheo View Post
 

 

I own Dragonfly v1.2 and totally agree. That's why I am selling it now.

Voices sound thin, unnatural and lack body due to the absense of lower midrange.

About the treble, zerolight has explained everything.

If that matters,I listen from the DF 1.2 with Philips Fidelio X1.

 

I don't understand all the hype about DF 1.2 as I consider it as a mediocre product regarding sound quality.


Exactly my sentiments after more listening and comparison.

The v1.0 is beautiful sounding and has the bottom end and analog sound and punch I love.

The v1.2 is brighter/detailed(no question about it) at the expense of the bottom end.

 

They sound like mirror images of each other where one focuses its output on the upper mid bass(v1.0) the other focuses it on the lower high frequency(v1.2).

However,  I would not sell either at this stage.  :L3000: 


Edited by XLR8 - 8/17/14 at 11:00pm
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