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post #1171 of 2033
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Odd, I have a 1st week of production unit. I am using it now. No issues at 100% volume with either PC (JRiver) or Mac (Amarra)

 

That's good to hear.  It's possible that mine was simply defective, but the distortion at max volume was not subtle.  To AQ's credit, they immediately offered to exchange it for a new one.  I look forward to hearing the results.

I hope the new one works as it should. I am closing in on a year of use and I am still very pleased with it.

post #1172 of 2033
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That's good to hear.  It's possible that mine was simply defective, but the distortion at max volume was not subtle.  To AQ's credit, they immediately offered to exchange it for a new one.  I look forward to hearing the results.

 

The Stereoquest review notes the second batch was explicitly changed due to this (went from 64 - > 60 steps).

post #1173 of 2033
With my Schiit Bifrost in for an upgrade, I plugged in my DF, running a cheap cable from it to the Valhalla OTL amp. It's very good. I can work to find the differences (mainly timbre, texture) but not a big stepdown. I was already impressed with the DF as my traveling dac/amp, but this is great!
post #1174 of 2033
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With my Schiit Bifrost in for an upgrade, I plugged in my DF, running a cheap cable from it to the Valhalla OTL amp. It's very good. I can work to find the differences (mainly timbre, texture) but not a big stepdown. I was already impressed with the DF as my traveling dac/amp, but this is great!

The Stereophile review had it plugged into a $250,000 system as the dac and they were impressed....I sure love mine.

post #1175 of 2033
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If I correctly understand what you are asking, I believe the answer is 'yes'.  I experienced the same thing with my DF.  I sent an e-mail to AudioQuest asking for clarification, since I believed I had an early version of the product.  They offered to exchange it for a new one from the current build.  It's on its way back and I should have it in a couple of days.  I am going to re-run the same tests I did (similar to what you describe above) and see if things have improved with a new unit.

 

i sent an email to AQ

they said it is not defected, said if it is overload, turn the volume of DF to 90

certainly i am not very happy with that

post #1176 of 2033
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The Stereoquest review notes the second batch was explicitly changed due to this (went from 64 - > 60 steps).

 

Yes.  It was the Stereophile review that prompted me to send an e-mail to AQ and ask if this was my problem.  The current run stops volume at 0db and the first run units would advance (or overdrive) to +6 db, which I attributed to the very noticeable distortion at max volume when plugged into an external pre-amp.  And, yes, you can just turn down the volume, but I wanted line-level output that bypasses the headphone amp.  I cannot get to the bottom of that last part - does max vol (line-level out) really bypass the variable level headphone amp?

 

Whatever... it's on the FedEx track and I will be listening to it tomorrow L3000.gif

post #1177 of 2033

Well, problem solved.  Received my replacement DF today and could hear the difference immediately.  Line-level out (i.e. max volume) with no audible distortion and no clicks/pops with Windows 8 (another issue I was having).

 

I love the sound of my (replacement) DragonFly.  I've been playing Steven Wilson ...loud... using:

 

 

Lenovo Yoga (JRiver) → iFi Audio iUSBPower →  AQ DragonFly  NuForce Icon HDP, LPS-1 → Senn HD 598

post #1178 of 2033
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Well, problem solved.  Received my replacement DF today and could hear the difference immediately.  Line-level out (i.e. max volume) with no audible distortion and no clicks/pops with Windows 8 (another issue I was having).

I love the sound of my (replacement) DragonFly.  I've been playing Steven Wilson ...loud... using:



Lenovo Yoga
 (JRiver) →
 iFi Audio iUSBPower 
→ 
 
AQ 
DragonFly 

 
NuForce Icon HDP, LPS-1
 →
 
Senn HD 598



How much does the ifi power improve the sonics of the DF? Lots? A little? Maybe?
post #1179 of 2033
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How much does the ifi power improve the sonics of the DF? Lots? A little? Maybe?

 

I was just posting something about that on another thread.  I can't figure out how to link to that post, so I will just copy the text:

 

 

 

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I wonder about that, as well.  I have one of these (iUSBPower) and I've been flipping back and forth between using it with my bel canto bridge/NuForce Icon and my AQ DragonFly.

 

I am pretty sure I can hear the difference with the DragonFly, but w/ the bel canto/Icon, I can't tell the difference.  With the DF, there does seem to be greater separation of instruments, but it's very subtle and may just be perception bias.  The iUSBPower engineering seems sound, in concept, but the bel canto bridge has a lot of power regulation already and I recall reading that USB power cleanup regulation was a design focus for the DragonFly.

 

Whatever ... it looks cool on my desk :-)  I need to post pics after I cleanup the mess of cables from test listening.

 

For me, the jury is still out w/ the DF, but I *believe* I can hear the improvement I describe above.

post #1180 of 2033
I know what you mean. If I had all the $ I've spent on maybes, I could buy a really high end dac.

USB power is funny. We expect it's dirty, but lots of dac mfg do fine with it.

One that got away from usb power and gets raves is John Kenny (Ciunas) in Ireland. High performance batteries.
post #1181 of 2033
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

Well, problem solved.  Received my replacement DF today and could hear the difference immediately.  Line-level out (i.e. max volume) with no audible distortion and no clicks/pops with Windows 8 (another issue I was having).

 

I love the sound of my (replacement) DragonFly.  I've been playing Steven Wilson ...loud... using:

 

 

Lenovo Yoga (JRiver) → iFi Audio iUSBPower →  AQ DragonFly  NuForce Icon HDP, LPS-1 → Senn HD 598

 

thanks krutsch

 

i have already replaced once, my first DF cannot play 44.1k hertz before, seems i need to go to the store again :(

post #1182 of 2033
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

Well, problem solved.  Received my replacement DF today and could hear the difference immediately.  Line-level out (i.e. max volume) with no audible distortion and no clicks/pops with Windows 8 (another issue I was having).

 

I love the sound of my (replacement) DragonFly.  I've been playing Steven Wilson ...loud... using:

 

 

Lenovo Yoga (JRiver) → iFi Audio iUSBPower →  AQ DragonFly  NuForce Icon HDP, LPS-1 → Senn HD 598

I hope your bad audio journey is finally over.

post #1183 of 2033

Joined the Audioquest Dragonfly club yesterday! I was looking for a compact DAC for my Macbook Air to use with my Westone 4s and Project Sunrise II amplifier. I was really hesitant to believe that this little stick could deliver such good quality audio so the store offered to demo it for me on their hifi studio on a B&W CM9 system and did a A-B comparison with a Macbook Pro notebook in store so that was really great of them. I have the same speakers at home so I could immediately note the difference the DF made and I had to pick up my jaw from the floor so I immediately bought one.

 

Early impressions at this early stage, though it is not as technically brilliant and resolving as the Audiolab M-DAC, I quite like the musical presentation, great sound staging and it has good detail retrieval. The M-DAC is very forward sounding so at times which I didn't always enjoy. The DF has nice synergy with the PSii amp and got me doing some serious toe tapping! It even sounds fantastic on my B&W MM-1 using the line input! The DF and Project Sunrise II together for $500 gives you some serious audio mileage in my view.

post #1184 of 2033

Can someone compare the Dragonfly in terms of SQ to the Schitt Stack (Magni, Modii) and the Xonar STX in detail?

post #1185 of 2033

I certainly like my Dragonfly more than I did the Asus Essence STX, sounds more balanced through the freqency spectrum and less noisy, though I feel the Essence STX can retrieve more detail. The STX is quite sensitive to noise in your case, so having a good low noise ATX PSU does help quite a bit. It depends on the cost you have to pay. Locally in South Africa the Asus Essence STX costs half what a Audioquest Dragonfly costs so its a little bit more difficult to decide. The STX offers great bang for the buck here. Perhaps someone else can offer an opinion on the Magni/Modi combo?


Edited by daerron - 6/1/13 at 9:30am
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