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post #16 of 27

The HD 598 has a far more accurate imaging than Q701s... that's for sure. Q701's soundstage = cavern  HD 598's soundstage = just right. They both have a big soundstage though. Never heard a planar magnetic but I doubt they have a large soundstage from what others say. 

post #17 of 27
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The HD 598 has a far more accurate imaging than Q701s... that's for sure. Q701's soundstage = cavern  HD 598's soundstage = just right. They both have a big soundstage though. Never heard a planar magnetic but I doubt they have a large soundstage from what others say. 

 

I actually felt that they're about the same. K601 has them all beat though by far when it comes to imaging. Probably has everything outside the Sextett beat.

post #18 of 27
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I actually felt that they're about the same. K601 has them all beat though by far when it comes to imaging. Probably has everything outside the Sextett beat.

I've always wanted to listen to the K501s and K601s. Can't believe they are even harder to drive than the Q701s. Geez AKG what are you thinking? How are the bass on the two? Gosh so hard to find an open headphone that doesn't have exaggerated bass (DT880/990, HD 650) with the right soundstage. 

post #19 of 27
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I've always wanted to listen to the K501s and K601s. Can't believe they are even harder to drive than the Q701s. Geez AKG what are you thinking? How are the bass on the two? Gosh so hard to find an open headphone that doesn't have exaggerated bass (DT880/990, HD 650) with the right soundstage. 

As a counter argument, I argue every open Audio Technica...  Normally, open headphones have less bass because the drivers don't compress the air to as high of a pressure as a closed phone.  Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule.

post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by NimbleTurtle View Post

I've always wanted to listen to the K501s and K601s. Can't believe they are even harder to drive than the Q701s. Geez AKG what are you thinking? How are the bass on the two? Gosh so hard to find an open headphone that doesn't have exaggerated bass (DT880/990, HD 650) with the right soundstage. 

AKG Q701 exaggerated bass? What? Are you hi?

post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by Fortunex View Post

Well the HE400 looks to be exactly what I'm looking for. Is there anyone who's tried both the HE400 and Q701 and can compare the soundstages, especially layering and separation?

 

Check with Mad Lust Envy. He strongly recommended the Q701 for gaming, where soundstage AND accurate positioning matter (albeit with specific DAC technology to simulate surround sound); right now he's loving the HE-400.

post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by Eric_C View Post

Check with Mad Lust Envy. He strongly recommended the Q701 for gaming, where soundstage AND accurate positioning matter (albeit with specific DAC technology to simulate surround sound); right now he's loving the HE-400.

Its not really possible without the specific DAC technology (Dolby headphone, CMSS-3D, Yamaha Silent Cinema.)

post #23 of 27

^ What's not really possible? To have soundstage and positioning? Or to judge the inherent soundstage and positioning capabilities of a headphone?

 

In any case, MLE writes about headphones primarily for the purpose of gaming, but he does not use them exclusively for that purpose. As such, he's qualified to talk to OP about both the Q701 and HE-400 for music and gaming and movies.

post #24 of 27
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^ What's not really possible? To have soundstage and positioning? Or to judge the inherent soundstage and positioning capabilities of a headphone?

 

In any case, MLE writes about headphones primarily for the purpose of gaming, but he does not use them exclusively for that purpose. As such, he's qualified to talk to OP about both the Q701 and HE-400 for music and gaming and movies.

using multichannel sound to create a more accurate sound field with more precise positioning cues instead of using 2 channel sound which has only left and right positional cues. DOlby headphone = virtual surround sound = needed in gaming and movies, not music.

post #25 of 27

I think my caveat in the original post covers that.

 

In any case OP is free to find out more from MLE directly.

post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

AKG Q701 exaggerated bass? What? Are you hi?

You mean "are you hiGH"?. No I am not. 

 

I simply forgot to add that open headphones either have exaggerated bass OR anemic bass (the Q701 in this case). Although then again, I did not directly refer to the Q701s as having exaggerated bass in the first place. 

 

Best regards, 

 

NT 

post #27 of 27
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Originally Posted by NimbleTurtle View Post

I've always wanted to listen to the K501s and K601s. Can't believe they are even harder to drive than the Q701s. Geez AKG what are you thinking? How are the bass on the two? Gosh so hard to find an open headphone that doesn't have exaggerated bass (DT880/990, HD 650) with the right soundstage. 

 

K601 definitely has more bass than the Q701, but it's mostly mid-bass. I thought it has more sub-bass, but I tested them recently and I no longer think this is true. The K601 is also warmer than the Q701 by far and has less treble extension. The K601 does seem to have a larger lower treble peak than the Q701 though. The K501 is close to being bass light, but not like the AD700. Much less than the Q701, K601. Even graphs seem to show this. It's a nice headphone and I wish I still had mine. The deal killer for me is that it's soundstage is massive. Once I got the Q701 I felt I didn't need it anymore. It's definitely smoother sounding than the Q701 to me. I won't say balanced...

 

K400 isn't also too far off from the K501's signature and much cheaper usually. Based on memory it has more treble than the K501, but I've found it had less bass.

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