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post #91 of 3418

In this court everyone's a lawyer & a judge. I don't see the point.

Listen to your stuff -> express yourself ,why argue when there are no medals awaiting.


Edited by oyster - 8/4/12 at 11:13pm
post #92 of 3418

Typical O2/ODAC thread.

The only exception was the one started by maverickronin. The absence of minions/agendas, and how helpful the thread was, were almost magical.

post #93 of 3418
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post

Afterall, more people die from driving their own cars than from mass transportation.  Anyone not taking the bus, train or subway is obviously ignorant and operating under some undue psychological influence.

 

This is pretty much completely OT, but it's interesting you bring transportation up, since it's one of the more well-researched areas where psychological biases prevail, people behave irrationally, the accuracy of self-evaluation is low, and so on.  e.g. percentage of drivers that think they're above average (golden...hands+feet? lol)

 

But maybe it is on topic.  Some people ignore reasons other than performance defined in certain ways (and in this example, safety?  survival rate?) to own certain things or exhibit certain behaviors.

post #94 of 3418
Guys. Don't turn a product discussion thread into a subjective vs objective debate. We should keep to ourselves and they should keep to themselves and we should join hands and enjoy this budget amp masterpiece.

P.S welcome back mike.
post #95 of 3418
Thread Starter 

Yeah I have to say this whole topic was very productive as a whole. Thanks for all the audiophiles' intake on the O2/ ODAC. 

post #96 of 3418

Your welcome....keep the topic on the topic and stop selling each others religion etc...

 

The O2 amp and Odac objectively measure very well, seems to sound great. Its relatively cheap and allows many folks without DEEP pockets to have world class sound thats affordable and they dont come with a little red book..

 

If you want to spend more dollars thats great, thems your dollars go for it....

 

I just hate spending all those dollars and then find out you really didnt have to ....to get performance as good as or better that the higher priced stuff.

 

Gosh knows I have spent money on the higher priced stuff with case made out of billet aluminum, that weigh alot, that even perform very very well...but not better than this el cheopo setup...

 

A lot of us really think the Vioelectric amp (the 200) is a really great amp...I do as well, and the person that designed the O2 (cant say the name here) also thinks its a great amp. Having a $150 amp that compares sonically to a $1000 amp...well wouldnt that be great....or does greatness still come with cost?

 

I have spent the last three days comparing the O2 to my Lyr and the ODAC to my HRT MSii+...and they all sound good. I have gone back and forth so many times my hand is tired of selecting playback devices in Win7...

 

The one thing I have noticed it the Lyr and the 02 sound very different....The O2 is 'clear and precise' and I found having a friend swapping them out I could reliably tell the difference and pick the O2 out....not so with the dacs...I cant tell any difference at all.....which for the price tells you another story.

 

All the best..

 

Alex
 


Edited by adydula - 8/6/12 at 7:53am
post #97 of 3418
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Originally Posted by adydula View Post

Having a $150 amp that compares sonically to a $1000 amp...well wouldnt that be great....or does greatness still come with cost?

 

It would be great if the $1000 amp in question were great and not merely good or okay.  A good deal is not the same as great ToTL sound.

post #98 of 3418

What happened to the odac impressions thread? I wad busy yesterday... went to check it today... and its gone! poof... doesn't exist. Did poop hit the fan?

post #99 of 3418

There's one here http://www.head-fi.org/t/611778/brief-odac-impressions#post_8418923

 

This link for me is broken...get a you dont have permission to access this area.

 

???????

 

Alex

post #100 of 3418
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What happened to the odac impressions thread? I wad busy yesterday... went to check it today... and its gone! poof... doesn't exist. Did poop hit the fan?

 

I think it got what it deserved. 

post #101 of 3418

What do you exactly mean by that?? fair and balanced????

post #102 of 3418
Im not sure the universe can handle that much BS. It just imploded.
post #103 of 3418

I wish i could have read the thread to make that decision for myself....seems for some reason when this amp and its associated dac gets mentioned it really makes some people go off the handle.....

 

I have both, I try to objectivley compare and listen to the stuff by buying it and making my own judgement calls before stating one item is better than another etc...

 

I am an engineer and am very analytical and measurements to mean are a baseline to look at if take properly and presented honestly....too many people are hiding stuff now-a-days...

 

An honest product for an honest dollar....

 

Alex

post #104 of 3418
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Originally Posted by adydula View Post

I wish i could have read the thread to make that decision for myself....seems for some reason when this amp and its associated dac gets mentioned it really makes some people go off the handle.....

 

I have both, I try to objectivley compare and listen to the stuff by buying it and making my own judgement calls before stating one item is better than another etc...

 

I am an engineer and am very analytical and measurements to mean are a baseline to look at if take properly and presented honestly....too many people are hiding stuff now-a-days...

 

An honest product for an honest dollar....

 

Alex

 

Agreed! I feel there is an abundance of ignorance and deception on both sides of the argument. For someone like myself who simply loves music and wants to find something that plays true to the source at the expense of synergy, it makes difficult to separate truth from misinformation. It really is sad, I would prefer if the conversations stayed away from analyzing V's motives and focused more on the odac/o2 itself.  

post #105 of 3418

Most people agree the Odac is good for the price. 

 

The arguments all start with the wild, inexperienced, often quite ignorant claims his minions make, which are fueled by V's motives and methods.  So clearly we start talking about that.  If his minions would stick to topics both subjective experience and objective knowledge they really had experience with and understood, these threads would stay much more rational and honestly quite positive, because everyone I know with good ears, experience with a lot of gear, and great understanding of measurements etc, think the Odac is good for the price. 

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