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post #2551 of 3666
Yes.
post #2552 of 3666
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Originally Posted by James-uk View Post

Yes.

Is it the ODAC?
post #2553 of 3666
Agree that the Master 7 is in a much higher league but the comparison is hardly fair, price wise. We're talking about a >2k usd device so I'd hope it does things better. For the dac/amp question: tough but if you want to try tubes I'd go for a used tube amp first, the precision of the dac becomes less relevant then, all things considered. And it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper, really going to a significantly better dac will cost a lot more cheddar than improving or changing the amp part. Not to mention that amps depreciate a lot slower than dacs.
post #2554 of 3666
I find head fi so frustrating. The only thing that we need to be concerned with now is the transducer . Spend your money on music and headphones not dacs/ amps. If the odac/O2 can give the volume you need then you can move on from the amp/dac conundrum! I put money on the fact that the hd800 will sound the same on the O2 /odac as any transparent TOTL dac/amp in 1000( insert any year) years time. The transducer is the sound!!!!
post #2555 of 3666
You'd lose that bet. Dead certain of it.
post #2556 of 3666
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post

You'd lose that bet. Dead certain of it.

I think so too. I don't think the amp can be beaten (certainly not for the same money) but DAC's are developing all the time.
post #2557 of 3666
I bet £1000 . See you in 1000 years for my money wink.gif
post #2558 of 3666
Our ears are the bottleneck now . Yes amps and dacs a can be better but we won't hear a Difference.
post #2559 of 3666
I'm willing to do 1000 Gbp right now, HD800, ODAC and my V800, blind test with classical music.
post #2560 of 3666
Assuming v800 meets transparency criteria you are on!
post #2561 of 3666
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post

You'd lose that bet. Dead certain of it.
No doubt. One of my friends has a whole bunch of amps and DACs from his trips over from Japan and Hong Kong, and the O2 and ODAC certainly get overshadowed by some of the larger units. He buys stuff used though, so his things are often 1/3-1/2 the price.
post #2562 of 3666
Anecdotes. My mate had this thing once that did this thing that you know did that.
post #2563 of 3666
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I think so too. I don't think the amp can be beaten (certainly not for the same money) but DAC's are developing all the time.
How are dacs developing?
post #2564 of 3666
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Is it the ODAC?
Yes the odac is transparent based on current recording methods
post #2565 of 3666
So in that case all DAC's will sound the same?
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