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post #886 of 930

SoundMagic wrote me back saying Micca Distributor was the Authorized dealer for the U.S 

 

I have wrote SoundMagic numerous times and still haven't received any new responses, again Horrible Customer Service! 

 

 

I will attach pictures as soon as this site lets me, its says im too new...
 
I have had my pair for over a year, they worked great except one of the speakers would sometimes cut in and out, but the major issue is one of the plastic pieces holding the cup snapped and now its being help up only by 1 of the plastic pieces.
 
 
 
 
 

Edited by ChrisCannady - 7/18/14 at 11:15am
post #887 of 930
Can we get more details on this HP150?
post #888 of 930
Thread Starter 
It is planned to be just a revised HP100. That's all I know for now.
It looks good though.
post #889 of 930
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Originally Posted by ostewart View Post

It is planned to be just a revised HP100. That's all I know for now.
It looks good though.
A revised one sounds good.
post #890 of 930
I have box scans up of the new HP150 if anyone is interested over in the HP150 thread. The frequency chart on the box looks pretty much the same to me. Haven't opened them yet because I wasn't necessarily looking for an HP100 with just different cosmetics.

Too bad. Looks like there might need only be one thread for these two headphones frown.gif
post #891 of 930

I am looking seriously at either the HP150, or the HP200.

 

One reviewer on Amazon stated that the HP100 put the vocals slightly out front.  This is one of the things I am wanting to avoid.  Going from floor speakers in which there is naturally more of a mix of sounds reaching your ears, to headphones.

 

Can anyone speak to this, give me your opinions?

 

I will ask the same question in the thread for the HP200, see what people think about it on the open back.

 

Thanks for any help.

post #892 of 930
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Originally Posted by mgh24 View Post

I am looking seriously at either the HP150, or the HP200.

One reviewer on Amazon stated that the HP100 put the vocals slightly out front.  This is one of the things I am wanting to avoid.  Going from floor speakers in which there is naturally more of a mix of sounds reaching your ears, to headphones.

Are you using room treatments or room correction software with your speaker setup? If your speaker setup is well setup in that regard, the HP100 will give you a just a little bit of boost on the high end and the low end in comparison to the mids. Otherwise, if your speaker setup is not setup for a linear response, room influences could be throwing the output off enough that this comparison may not help you.

I'm also not sure what you mean by that "natural" mix of sound. Different speakers will have different soundstages, and it is also dependent on how good your placement is. What kind of tower speakers are you running?
post #893 of 930

Thanks for the reply. 

 

By natural, I meant that just from the nature of speakers, as there is some distance between them and your ears, that the sound "mixes" as it travels between the speaker and your ears, just a different dynamic than what is happening when you have headphones on, where it is strictly stereo.  Maybe I am thinking incorrectly of the differences?

 

I just sold my old speakers that I was very fond of (which is a story by itself).  I had listened to these for many years, so they are my reference.  I have never had a nice set of headphones, but to me the vocals are always more present, or up front than what I experienced with my speakers.  Headphones may even be a better representation of the recording, but it is different from what I am accustomed to. 

 

Any new headphone that I get will be my main way of listening to my music going forward, so I was concerned about a headphone that might exaggerate vocals.

 

I know that I do not have a good ear; that is, I don't think I will be able to discern the subtle differences in music that many here can.  That said, mid-range is important to me, and clean clear bass is important to me (something my old speakers excelled at).  I am not sure how I will feel about having something that is bright in the trebles, not sure that I have even experienced that up to this point.

 

I think the main thing that I did not make clear enough in my post, was that these speakers are my reference, what I had grown to really love.  I know that I can, and will, learn to appreciate a new sound, even when it is different.  The speakers were Yamaha NS1000M's, that I bought in 1975-76.  I never had a listening room, any room or software treatments.

 

Thanks for your help, much appreciated.

post #894 of 930
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Thanks for the reply. 

By natural, I meant that just from the nature of speakers, as there is some distance between them and your ears, that the sound "mixes" as it travels between the speaker and your ears, just a different dynamic than what is happening when you have headphones on, where it is strictly stereo.  Maybe I am thinking incorrectly of the differences?

Speakers with decent soundstage capability that are setup well in reference to the listening position will create a soundstage stretching across the room in front of you where the instruments are distinct. Good headphones will do the same, although the soundstage tends to be more directly on top of you and to the left and right and less in front. A good soundstage is helpful for good imaging. If the soundstage is too narrow or not there, then there's no distinction (sense of distance) between instruments. So if I am understanding you correctly, I would not agree that the mixing together you describe is advantageous, and you might come to find you like a good soundstage if you have not experienced it before.
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Originally Posted by mgh24 View Post

I just sold my old speakers that I was very fond of (which is a story by itself).  I had listened to these for many years, so they are my reference.  I have never had a nice set of headphones, but to me the vocals are always more present, or up front than what I experienced with my speakers.  Headphones may even be a better representation of the recording, but it is different from what I am accustomed to. 

Any new headphone that I get will be my main way of listening to my music going forward, so I was concerned about a headphone that might exaggerate vocals.

I don't think that the HP150s necessarily exaggerate vocals, but they are very present. Perhaps your speakers were warm and a bit dark sounding, in which case that's definitely not the HP150s. I would describe the HP150s as the brighter side of neutral, but not super bright.
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Originally Posted by mgh24 View Post

I know that I can, and will, learn to appreciate a new sound, even when it is different. 

And that does definitely happen. I would say that it's often easier to get used to a neutral set of headphones rather than one that greatly exaggerates some part of the frequency response. There has been some research by Harman Kardon in which people were ABX tested listening to different speakers, and a more neutral response was favored by the majority.

BTW: If you get the headphones from Amazon or fullfilled by Amazon (not 3rd party vendors that do their own shipping), the RMA process is easy, and Amazon charges their cost of shipping for you with a printed label. So the demo fee for something like this--should you decided to return them--is usually around $10 or $12. Just have to keep the headphones and the retail packing mint. Not bad to try. Since the HP100s tend toward neutral, if you had experience with the, but didn't like them, you'd probably be able to get people to help you with what to try next. As it is, since predicting how your speakers sounded in your room, not any relative shared experience to help you figure things out smily_headphones1.gif
post #895 of 930

Thanks for your time.  That helps me a lot!

 

I may try the HP200, though some have stated that the soundstage is not greatly increased with the 200's compared to the 100's.

post #896 of 930
HP100s $140 shipped on Amazon at the moment from a 3rd party vendor. Only one in stock: http://www.amazon.com/SoundMAGIC-HP100-Premium-Folding-Headphones/dp/B0086YJ86Y
post #897 of 930

Anyone tried the new HifiMan Focus (Pleather/velour top - the one's that come with the 560) ear pads on the HP100/150/200 yet?

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Anyone tried the new HifiMan Focus (Pleather/velour top - the one's that come with the 560) ear pads on the HP100/150/200 yet?

Considering how expensive they are I doubt anyone would want to sacrifice a set of those pads for a $200 headphone.

post #899 of 930
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Considering how expensive they are I doubt anyone would want to sacrifice a set of those pads for a $200 headphone.

Yeah, that's true. 

 

They sell for approximately $55 in Australia, which is a fair amount, but if I manage to sell my Shure Alcantara pads, then I should have enough to switch over and test out the HifiMan pads for you guys. 

post #900 of 930
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Originally Posted by SkyBleu View Post
 

Yeah, that's true. 

 

They sell for approximately $55 in Australia, which is a fair amount, but if I manage to sell my Shure Alcantara pads, then I should have enough to switch over and test out the HifiMan pads for you guys. 

I imagine they would fit the HP100s better than the Alcantara pads, considering they share a more similar shape/depth/material to the original HP100 pads.  The Alcantara pads completely sucked the highs out of the HP100, I didn't like them at all.

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