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post #796 of 1006
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Originally Posted by ostewart View Post

For a closed can the HP100 has excellent soundstage, very 3D, even more so than some open cans. It has a spacious sound.
More/equally as spacious and 3D as the HP200? Because if yes, I'm sold.

Also whilst on the topic...HP200 or HP100? smily_headphones1.gif
post #797 of 1006
Thread Starter 

HP200 dont have the largest soundstage tbh, the HP100 probably equals it, if not the HP200 is only slightly ahead.

 

HP100 is slightly warm and lush

 

HP200 is brighter and more detailed, more revealing of bad recordings. HP200 is fairly neutral, HP100 is on the warmer side.

post #798 of 1006

Yeah, that's agreeable, but they are due to being open cans, I suppose.

 

I do appreciate brightness/detail level of the HP200, and I'm currently in the search for a closed-can alternative around $250:) HP100 currently are in my line of fire, but some say they're neutral, and some will say they're warm. Kinda on the fence, at the moment, haha.

post #799 of 1006
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Originally Posted by SkyBleu View Post
 

Yeah, that's agreeable, but they are due to being open cans, I suppose.

 

I do appreciate brightness/detail level of the HP200, and I'm currently in the search for a closed-can alternative around $250:) HP100 currently are in my line of fire, but some say they're neutral, and some will say they're warm. Kinda on the fence, at the moment, haha.

My best point of reference is the AKG K141 mkII. They do seem to me to be the more neutral of the two, despite the k141 being semi open which, as far as I gather, increases the likelihood of neutrality.

post #800 of 1006
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Originally Posted by MrLazyAnt View Post

My best point of reference is the AKG K141 mkII. They do seem to me to be the more neutral of the two, despite the k141 being semi open which, as far as I gather, increases the likelihood of neutrality.
Yeah, except I need closed and good isolation this time:)
post #801 of 1006
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Originally Posted by SkyBleu View Post


Yeah, except I need closed and good isolation this time:)

You don't need ear piercing volume to block out most sound with the HP100's which, as I phrased badly before, seem to me to be the more neutral of the 2. And you can, should you so wish, block out a bus's noise as it passes next to you with a DX50 on low gain. That doesn't give you an indication of volume, but it is still a completely clean sound at the volume required to do so, which is probably just a little north of harmful on loudish-well-mixed tracks.

 

And just an fyi on driving them, these don't seem to be all that source dependant. I have but a few source combos to compare, and for the next 2 days will only have had the chance to compare 2 - and even then not extensively. I'll try to add some more detailed comparisons on the subject of driving them in the coming week or two if you like.

 

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I see you own the k240's as well - I have listened to them, but not enough to form as developed an opinion - their general sound signature is very like the k141's to me, but better. My friend, who's main cans are the k240's, heard these and within 10 minutes was tempted to buy something of the sort.

To me they are usable as portables, but some may not agree. Also, I got them 2nd hand with a straight cable, which, as the general consensus seems to agree to, is a massive improvement over the coiled one it comes with. I haven't tried the coiled one yet but am perfectly happy with the straight one (though it is much too short to be used for anything other than portable).


Edited by MrLazyAnt - 3/7/14 at 4:27pm
post #802 of 1006
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Originally Posted by MrLazyAnt View Post

You don't need ear piercing volume to block out most sound with the HP100's which, as I phrased badly before, seem to me to be the more neutral of the 2. And you can, should you so wish, block out a bus's noise as it passes next to you with a DX50 on low gain. That doesn't give you an indication of volume, but it is still a completely clean sound at the volume required to do so, which is probably just a little north of harmful on loudish-well-mixed tracks.

And just an fyi on driving them, these don't seem to be all that source dependant. I have but a few source combos to compare, and for the next 2 days will only have had the chance to compare 2 - and even then not extensively. I'll try to add some more detailed comparisons on the subject of driving them in the coming week or two if you like.

I see you own the k240's as well - I have listened to them, but not enough to form as developed an opinion - their general sound signature is very like the k141's to me, but better. My friend, who's main cans are the k240's, heard these and within 10 minutes was tempted to buy something of the sort.


To me they are usable as portables, but some may not agree. Also, I got them 2nd hand with a straight cable, which, as the general consensus seems to agree to, is a massive improvement over the coiled one it comes with. I haven't tried the coiled one yet but am perfectly happy with the straight one (though it is much too short to be used for anything other than portable).
I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. When I said that I needed closed and isolation, it was in reference to the AKG K141's not the HP100.

I've uses the HP100's before, and I only came back here for other people's opinions. As of driving them, I understand that my gear can drive them with ease (been tested), but driving-comparisons are always accepted. smily_headphones1.gif

After trying the HP200's, I honestly didn't think much of the K240's at that point, and hence why they're sold. When I owned the K240's, I had a custom SPC cable which surely made the signal much cleaner, and more transparent as a whole. Figuratively speaking, when I saw things such as "much" cleaner, we are speaking in the forms of fine detailing, not night and day.

Sorry if I came across with the wrong intention, since I was after a closed alternative, as opposed to a semi-closed.
post #803 of 1006

Okay, I this is just adding to what is already largely the consensus here. When necessary these deliver BASS TO YA M&^%%#^%$#IN' FACE, and when it isn't, they are not dark at all. I usually listen to these straight out of my DX50, but have decided to use the DX50's line out to go round to my refurbished Marantz PM230 speaker amp. Now I was pleased with these from the get-go, but through the amp's HO..... Jesus wheezes..... WOW! HOW LOW CAN YOU GO!?

 

I'm not sure how HO on my amp stacks up against others. The cMoyBB isn't nearly as good. These don't REQUIRE amping but it would appear that a good amp (again, not sure in which price range) does make these go from a very good headphone to a panty-wetter (for the price I paid of course, which is 125 Euro shipped 2nd hand but under warranty). I lack the equipment variety to confirm this, but I imagine these scale up very nicely with better source components and amps.

 

*Sidenote - The PM230+DX50 combo is a bit darker (just a bit mind you) than the DX50 alone.

 

My ODAC is on loan for the timebeing, am hoping to do more comparisons in the not-too-distant future.

 

 

P.S.
This realisation of how well these scale up is very frustrating. It means that some time soon, my bank account is likely to start wailing.


Edited by MrLazyAnt - 3/16/14 at 8:47am
post #804 of 1006

So I just got this headphone under a week ago, and after spending around 5-6 hours with it, I am amazed. This might be one of few headphones, that although sounding warm, it still maintains to have good clarity as well as unveiled mids and highs!

 

Love, love, love it:) Very neutral, and when provoked, the bass comes out sensationally! Soundstage is also great!

post #805 of 1006
Thread Starter 

Again, nearly everyone who has tried the HP100 loves them :) enjoy

post #806 of 1006

So I've tried these with moded Philips 650 cd player and Sony F555ES amp. Honestly I can't spot any difference between this setup and note2/pc/laptop. If it's there, it's so tiny that I wouldn't even bother. In a few days I'll stop by specialised hifi shop, maybe a dedicated headphone amp/dac will make a difference. I'm kinda glad that you can connect this to anything and still have a nice sound, as long as recording is decent ofc :)

post #807 of 1006

I have a question guys.

A friend of mine bought the HP-100 and I was excited to try them, because it was going to be my first time hearing a "high end" full size headphone, but, after listening them, I was quite dissapointed. They sounded too bright, and V-Shaped like, but with poor bass. Actually, I prefered a lot much my Brainwavz M3, but, I guess there is something weird here, because I know they are good headphones. So, they need an amp to sound nice or something? I listened to them on the Cowon X7 of my friend, and then on my Cowon D3, and finally on my laptop and in all of them sounded the same. Am I missing something?

post #808 of 1006

 

No, you probably don't like this kind sound signature, and the relative lack of boosted mid bass which won't be present even with amping. I'd suggest to look for bass heavy headphone instead.

post #809 of 1006

Hmm, maybe. It´s just that It didn´t sound to my ears as "balanced" because the treble was too present and it hurted a bit my ears, and it didn´t sound "natural", just bright. I did noticed the larger soundstage ofc, and some details here and there but, still too treble happy.

post #810 of 1006

It's a fairly bright phone but the treble is not harsh at all for me, I think you'll like warm or dark phone far more. Also, if you're used to a particular signature for a long time it will be hard to switch to the contrasting one sometimes, I'm used to it now though and can enjoy dark or bright phone just fine but I would still need one or two song to "readjust" my perception.

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