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post #196 of 907
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Originally Posted by draven5494 View Post

Well, I received my Denon D600 last yesterday and did some comparisons between that, the HP-100 and my MDR-MA900.

 

I will just briefly touch on the D600's packaging, it is quite nice.  It reminds me of some higher-end headphone packaging I have seen.  However, I can't speak for anyone else, but when I take a headphone out of it's packaging, I don't mess with it again unless I either return the headphones or sell them.  So, while nice packaging is good to see, it's not that important to me.

 

What is important is the sound.  I performed my tests with my Foobar 2000 (FLAC) - ODAC - Burson Soloist setup.  Yeah, the Soloist is probably overkill for headphones in this price range but I have the amp and I'm gonna use it!  biggrin.gif

 

*Note* - I bought the D600s used, so I am assuming that they already have some hours on them and don't plan on doing any burn-in sessions.  

 

I'm not going to give a detailed breakdown - just my overall impressions.  

 

D600 - Warm, bassy with unrefined highs and slightly recessed mids/vocals.  The thunderous bass tries to steal the show here, saying "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!".  The soundstage feels big but indistinct, I believe this is due to the cavernous ear cups.  

 

Compared to the HP100 - the D600 doesn't impress me very much.  I feel the HP100 pretty much beats the D600 in every category except for soundstage size, maybe.  That's not to say the D600 isn't a good headphone.  I would categorize it as a fun-sounding headphone.  I think the sound signature definitely leans towards a warmer, bassier sound.  The HP100s to me are more refined, with greater detail and more neutral sound signature.  I prefer the HP100s soundstage and imaging as well.  The D600s soundstage may be bigger, but it feels congested at times.  

 

Compared to the MA900s - there is no contest here honestly.  I know the MA900 is an open headphone, but it shares a similar price to the HP100 and the used D600.  Basically, the MA900 puts the D600 to shame.  The MA900 sounds much more refined than the D600.  There is no hint of congestion or peakiness in the highs on the MA900.  They maintain fantastic clarity and separation even when things get busy.  The bass of the MA900, while not extending as deep as the D600s or HP100s, is tight, detailed and satisfying.  It goes without saying that the soundstage and imaging on the MA900 bests the D600's.

 

So, needless to say, I am not very impressed with the D600s.  Comparing retail prices, I feel that the HP100 and MA900 at 1/2 the price outperform the D600 in pretty much every category.  I still consider the HP100 to be one of the best closed headphones available, especially in this price range.  I have owned the MA900 for a few months now and it's sound still impresses me.  I feel it outperforms many other open headphones I have heard in this price range.

 

As of now, the HP100s and MA900s are my closed and open headphones of choice.  I have been through dozens and dozens of pairs over the years and I finally feel that I have the headphones I have been looking for.  Of course, if the past is any indication, this is subject to change.  wink.gif


The best news here is the Soundmagic go DEEP with the bass..........................that's the only thing I thought they lacked from reading a couple of reviews. 

 

And by the way, you can get D600's mostly all the time for $240ish so the price point is a lot closer than the MSRP. 

 

Thanks for the info!

post #197 of 907
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The best news here is the Soundmagic go DEEP with the bass..........................that's the only thing I thought they lacked from reading a couple of reviews. 

 

And by the way, you can get D600's mostly all the time for $240ish so the price point is a lot closer than the MSRP. 

 

Thanks for the info!

Yes, while that isn't stated in my review the HP100s perform a rare feat with it's bass.  It extends very deep while never intruding into the mids.  The D600s do not pull this off IMO.  

 

I normally get my headphones from Amazon and the D600's price has sat at or around $400 new.  Although, I bought these in "like new" condition for less than $230 so yes, it's easy to find them for less.

post #198 of 907

Thanks a lot for the comparison.  I guess that saves me $250:).

post #199 of 907
Thread Starter 
The HP200 may be competition for your MA900.
post #200 of 907
I would love to get my hands on the HP200s but haven't found them for sale in the US yet.
post #201 of 907

What genres would you say these headphones do not perform very well with? I'm not looking for a 'oh it handles everything well,' but rather a more critical assessment rather than most of the gushing praise found in appreciation threads.

post #202 of 907
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Originally Posted by posteriorpounde View Post

What genres would you say these headphones do not perform very well with? I'm not looking for a 'oh it handles everything well,' but rather a more critical assessment rather than most of the gushing praise found in appreciation threads.

 

They sound just ok with classical. Good for a closed headphone but can't match an open headphones soundstage and layering

post #203 of 907
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Originally Posted by draven5494 View Post

I would love to get my hands on the HP200s but haven't found them for sale in the US yet.


You order them from hifi headphones UK. Once you put in your address the price goes down, I think it adds up to $244 total, but I may be wrong.

Not sure why it ends up so cheap, dale thorn explained it to me once. I think its called VAT?

post #204 of 907
Yeah he told me that too. Our prices are including 20% sales tax. Annoyingly called "value added tax" if you're from outside Europe it can be removed, with the understanding that your own country should charge you it's own tax, but the US customs rarely (if ever) check so you will most likely get away with it.
post #205 of 907

Nice review, beautiful set of headphones.  Love the ear cups.
 

post #206 of 907
Thread Starter 
Thanks!
post #207 of 907

For those looking to get a straight cable: contact the sales address sales2@soundmagic.com.cn, inquiring about a HP200 cable. You can get a quote for cable price and shipping to your area if you send them your address in your initial inquiry.

 

Note that you may not receive a response if you message them in English. After my first english email received no response, I emailed them in Chinese, which is one of my primary languages, and received a response in a few hours, so you may want to try the same

 

This was my quote, for shipping to Maryland:

"HP200 延长线:USD$17
Shipping cost:USD$20"
post #208 of 907

Also, I got these headphones recently and I had a few opinions of these:

 

Unamped:

  • Mids feel kind of empty, also overshadowed by treble
  • Bass is OK; not bad, but not stellar

 

Amped with C&C BH:

  • Helps bring forth mids, reduce treble
  • Bass gains impact, can feel the extension better

 

I don't think its a HUGE HUGE difference; while it does sound nicer, I'm not sure its worth $100 if you plan on buying this amp to complement these $190 headphones.

post #209 of 907
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Originally Posted by posteriorpounde View Post

Also, I got these headphones recently and I had a few opinions of these:

 

Unamped:

  • Mids feel kind of empty, also overshadowed by treble
  • Bass is OK; not bad, but not stellar

 

Amped with C&C BH:

  • Helps bring forth mids, reduce treble
  • Bass gains impact, can feel the extension better

 

I don't think its a HUGE HUGE difference; while it does sound nicer, I'm not sure its worth $100 if you plan on buying this amp to complement these $190 headphones.


I'm curious, which headphone do you think has good/great mid and bass?

post #210 of 907
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Originally Posted by posteriorpounde View Post

Also, I got these headphones recently and I had a few opinions of these:

Unamped:
  • Mids feel kind of empty, also overshadowed by treble
  • Bass is OK; not bad, but not stellar

Amped with C&C BH:
  • Helps bring forth mids, reduce treble
  • Bass gains impact, can feel the extension better

I don't think its a HUGE HUGE difference; while it does sound nicer, I'm not sure its worth $100 if you plan on buying this amp to complement these $190 headphones.

I was literally about to have the exact same setup. I planned on buying the BH in the next week.
Why don't you like it? And are there other amp you would reccomend
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