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post #91 of 160
Wow this thread really grows and I didn't even know it. But like tdockweiler said the mid and high mid I find them quite present, my impression of it is balanced and slightly mid forward. Mine is a TB if that matters to you and driven from fiio e17 and source is just my iPod classic
post #92 of 160
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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post


Either the Best Buy Po Audio departments are more standardized than I thought, or we may have the same store. Mine has the DJ200, TMA-1 Beatport, HD280 Pro, HDJ-2000, Pro#Asomethingsomething, HD380, and another Pioneer.

They must be standard because my BB has exactly the same cans.
post #93 of 160

Having recieved a pair of them yesterday as a promotional thing at an event (and being somewhat unimpressed with the sound), after reading this thread I left them in their case for ~14 hours with a mix of rock and hip-hip/rap playing at a moderatly high volume, and listening to them today, they sound much more detailed, where as before they were a bit muddy.  I am becoming much more interested in them now that they are starting to burn in and am starting form a much better opinion of them as well.

 

I am mainly driving with my Sansa Clip Zip and E6.  The other cans I own to compare them to are my 7506s and MS-1s, along with my girlfriends SR-60s.

post #94 of 160
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Originally Posted by Rush1184 View Post

Having recieved a pair of them yesterday as a promotional thing at an event (and being somewhat unimpressed with the sound), after reading this thread I left them in their case for ~14 hours with a mix of rock and hip-hip/rap playing at a moderatly high volume, and listening to them today, they sound much more detailed, where as before they were a bit muddy.  I am becoming much more interested in them now that they are starting to burn in and am starting form a much better opinion of them as well.

 

I am mainly driving with my Sansa Clip Zip and E6.  The other cans I own to compare them to are my 7506s and MS-1s, along with my girlfriends SR-60s.

 

I've had that issue too. A couple pairs i've had sounded a bit muffled out of the box, which is definitely NOT what the TB/DJ100 should sound like. Ever. One pair needed 4 days or so of burn in (just overnight while sleeping) to sound identical to my first. Supposedly these use a titanium coated driver (like the KSC75) and need to break in. My last pair sounded just fine, no burn in needed.

post #95 of 160

They shouldn't sound muffled if placed on your ears properly. I'm talking about the DJ100. I think the headphone is kind of picky with placement. Place the headphones too forward on the ears and the sound will change. Just remember to check the placement. Maybe set them farther back on the ears than you think they should be. 

post #96 of 160

Yo,

 

I find the DJ200 very overpriced for their full retails. Paying half of their full retail is a deal then. 


Edited by Zombie_X - 8/5/12 at 7:01pm
post #97 of 160
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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post

Yo,

 

I find the DJ100 very overpriced for their full retails. Paying half of their full retail is a deal then. 

DJ200 you mean? How is $50 OK, but $80 is so bad. The DJ100 has always retailed for $80. What else is better for under $100? SRH-440? V6?
The SRH-440 is most uncomfortable headphone there is. KNS-6400? HD-280? SR-80?

 

If you really meant the DJ200, then i'd agree. $130 is a bit high, but maybe not if I absolutely need the remote, mic and case. Those things aren't exactly free.

 

I think the DJ100 sounds better than the SRH-840/940, K240 Studio, HD-600 and M50, so i'd say that's a pretty dang good deal to me. Heck, I don't even use my Q701 anymore much thanks for this headphone. The HD-580 is getting lots of use though.

 

You keep saying it's not a good deal, but give people some other options..

Maybe you should all do a review for us as to what these other headphones do better. I hope you're not comparing open headphones to closed ones, because that's a bit wrong due to how much different they sound.

Sometimes it's hard not to do.

 

BTW I think the Tony Bennett is an absolute steal at $75. Too bad it's now up to $100 I think. $75 for the DJ100 plus detachable cable, mp3 download and case is pretty good. If you're weird, sure you can add a detachable cable option to the DJ100 for less money, but lets see you drill a hole through that thing. Trust me, it's tough biggrin.gif Of course not everyone needs a removable cable, but I love having that.

 

Also..it just sounds like you don't like their signature or might like something with more treble? I don't even know what kind of sound signature you prefer. Maybe you like a much warmer headphone, but you said the DJ100 was "very warm", which I don't agree with at all. Maybe you prefer something with less forward mids?


Edited by tdockweiler - 8/5/12 at 4:53pm
post #98 of 160
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Originally Posted by staticfi View Post

They shouldn't sound muffled if placed on your ears properly. I'm talking about the DJ100. I think the headphone is kind of picky with placement. Place the headphones too forward on the ears and the sound will change. Just remember to check the placement. Maybe set them farther back on the ears than you think they should be. 


I agree that it's picky with placement, but I don't think it should sound THIS bad due to placement. I bet most people haven't experienced a DJ100 that needs burn in and that's a good thing. I've heard it from only one other person so far. Just really lacking sound clarity. I hope I can get another pair and hear this again. This way I can do a comparison between the Tony Bennett and DJ100. Probably sound 99% identical, which is fine. I still think the TB sounds a tad better, but no way to verify this without another DJ100. Probably not even possible.

 

I wonder how many people get a DJ100 and judge it too fast if it possibly needed burn-in. Heck, I don't burn in any of my headphones either.

 

EDIT: Actually, I don't know if it's so picky with placement. What's more important I think possibly is getting a good seal. If I stretch the pads out a little and make sure my ears are sticking out etc, they sound good nearly every time. With M50 pads I don't have this issue.


Edited by tdockweiler - 8/5/12 at 6:06pm
post #99 of 160
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

DJ200 you mean? How is $50 OK, but $80 is so bad. The DJ100 has always retailed for $80. What else is better for under $100? SRH-440? V6?
The SRH-440 is most uncomfortable headphone there is. ...

OK--let's back up a bit from the ledge.  I find the stock 440 to more comfortable than the stock 100 & TB.  However, the facts of the matter are than all of them ar much more comfortable with other ear pads--the M50 for the Koss and 840 for the 440.

 

At around $50, as is often seen at Amazon, the 100 is a great buy.  The one critical weakness of the 100 family is that it is just a little too difficult to drive for portable and (especially laptop) computer use.  If that little issue could be improved, Koss would have it all figured out in an affordable, quality, customer friendly mid-centric can.

 

In any case the 200 would be ideally priced at just below $100.

post #100 of 160

Hi,

 

Yes I meant the DJ200. That's a typo on my part.

 

I think the TB is worth the $75 for the detachable cable and full album download. 

 

When I say there are better options I mean other closed headphones (SRH-440, KNS-6400). The MDR-V6 is a terrible headphone IMO and should be avoided. I find the KRK and Shure have much better detail, resolution, control, and so on.

 

I have the HD600, T1, T5p, K400, K501 and the DJ100 has more forward mids than all of them. It is a warm headphone, no if's and, or buts about it. I find them to be much warmer than my HD600.

 

I love the headphones, they are really good. It's not even the sound signature as I do love it a lot. I was just stating that for $50 they are great but anymore and not so much. I feel the TB should be about $70 and the DJ200 should be $90 or so.

 

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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

DJ200 you mean? How is $50 OK, but $80 is so bad. The DJ100 has always retailed for $80. What else is better for under $100? SRH-440? V6?
The SRH-440 is most uncomfortable headphone there is. KNS-6400? HD-280? SR-80?

 

If you really meant the DJ200, then i'd agree. $130 is a bit high, but maybe not if I absolutely need the remote, mic and case. Those things aren't exactly free.

 

I think the DJ100 sounds better than the SRH-840/940, K240 Studio, HD-600 and M50, so i'd say that's a pretty dang good deal to me. Heck, I don't even use my Q701 anymore much thanks for this headphone. The HD-580 is getting lots of use though.

 

You keep saying it's not a good deal, but give people some other options..

Maybe you should all do a review for us as to what these other headphones do better. I hope you're not comparing open headphones to closed ones, because that's a bit wrong due to how much different they sound.

Sometimes it's hard not to do.

 

BTW I think the Tony Bennett is an absolute steal at $75. Too bad it's now up to $100 I think. $75 for the DJ100 plus detachable cable, mp3 download and case is pretty good. If you're weird, sure you can add a detachable cable option to the DJ100 for less money, but lets see you drill a hole through that thing. Trust me, it's tough biggrin.gif Of course not everyone needs a removable cable, but I love having that.

 

Also..it just sounds like you don't like their signature or might like something with more treble? I don't even know what kind of sound signature you prefer. Maybe you like a much warmer headphone, but you said the DJ100 was "very warm", which I don't agree with at all. Maybe you prefer something with less forward mids?


Edited by Zombie_X - 8/5/12 at 7:08pm
post #101 of 160

Strange, as when I first listened to the TBSE1s I wanted to take them off and throw them across the room. The piercing vocals were killing my ears. Clarity wasn't really a problem, the prominence was however.

 

I'm still having a problem with the cymbals. It still drives me mad sometimes, actually.


Edited by mbamg - 8/5/12 at 7:42pm
post #102 of 160

Hi,

 

I know what you are talking about. Cymbals to sound loud and have a presence to them. It's like brightness, but the headphone aren't bright. It anything it's like a glare. Maybe a spike on those frequencies.

 

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Originally Posted by mbamg View Post

Strange, as when I first listened to the TBSE1s I wanted to take them off and throw them across the room. The piercing vocals were killing my ears. Clarity wasn't really a problem, the prominence was however.

 

I'm still having a problem with the cymbals. It still drives me mad sometimes, actually.

post #103 of 160
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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post

Hi,

 

I know what you are talking about. Cymbals to sound loud and have a presence to them. It's like brightness, but the headphone aren't bright. It anything it's like a glare. Maybe a spike on those frequencies.

 

 

It's not even that. I just don't feel that they're being fully reproduced. As I've said before in another thread, the HTX7s are better at it. Speaking of which, I've yet to post my impressions of the comparison...

 

I've only listened to a limited number of headphones/IEMs, but I've found that the TBSE1s are the most neutral by far. You must be listening to some really neutral equipment to think that these are warm.


Edited by mbamg - 8/5/12 at 7:51pm
post #104 of 160

Hi,

 

Like frequencies are missing? Sounds odd as my old pair made cymbals sound bright. Your's sounds like it has dips in it's response. Maybe difference in manufacturing?

 

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Originally Posted by mbamg View Post

 

It's not even that. I just don't feel that they're being fully reproduced. As I've said before in another thread, the HTX7s are better at it. Speaking of which, I've yet to post my impressions of the comparison...


Edited by Zombie_X - 8/5/12 at 7:51pm
post #105 of 160
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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post

Hi,

 

Like frequencies are missing? Sounds odd as my old pair made cymbals sound bright. Your's sounds like it has dips in it's response. Maybe difference in manufacturing?

 

 

Precisely what I'm thinking. If I take them apart we just might find out if there's any physical differences. At the moment I'm not very inclined to, however.

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