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My 681's had a load of bass when I first got them but they lost about 50% of it after they burned in. I used an EQ and lowered 8K and 16k a bit and raised 30 and 60 and now they have quite a bit more and sound funner.

Wow...that's weird. Never heard headphones loosing bass after burn in. I also EQ'd my superluxes. I got rid of the peaks in higher frequencies but I was still unable to get sufficient bass out of them. I guess there really is something wrong with my hd681. I'm not a basshead...bass on my ace mp68 is good enough for me. Bass amount and impact on superlux is like 1/3 what is on ace. I red somewhere that hd681 should have more bass than fa-004/brainwavz hm3...definately not the case with my headphones. And if i plug my hd681 on a computer that doesn't have an amp or soundcard as good as xonar dg, it gets even worse. Bass is not just thin, it is tapping. No impact at all.  Good thing I got the takstar's, I would have spent rest of my life thinking that there can be no bass on open headphones :D 

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Where can I buy this in the US? Do I have to order it from the UK amazon? I can't find it anywhere and don't really want to use Ebay.

 

 

Seaben sells 2050 for 59.99$+free shipping. It's not as cheap as I would have imagined. Well worth the money though. Build quality is very good for it's price. Velour pads, aluminium hinges... I might order ts-671 from there. I have a thing for huge headphones :D 

 

http://www.seaben.com/TAKSTAR-T-S-HI2050-Hi-Fi-Stereo-Audio-Monitor-Headphones--HI-2050-_p28494.html

 

Check out this thread, maybe there is more info on where to buy the headphones in US: http://www.head-fi.org/t/585356/takstar-beyer-oem

post #32 of 56
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Seaben sells 2050 for 59.99$+free shipping. It's not as cheap as I would have imagined. Well worth the money though. Build quality is very good for it's price. Velour pads, aluminium hinges... I might order ts-671 from there. I have a thing for huge headphones :D 

 

http://www.seaben.com/TAKSTAR-T-S-HI2050-Hi-Fi-Stereo-Audio-Monitor-Headphones--HI-2050-_p28494.html

 

Check out this thread, maybe there is more info on where to buy the headphones in US: http://www.head-fi.org/t/585356/takstar-beyer-oem

wow thats cheap. thanks! I'll have to start saving up

 

what are some characteristics of these?


Edited by Supertoaster - 7/4/12 at 1:41pm
post #33 of 56

First thing i noticed was the soundstage. It is bigger than on hd681. Listening to hd681 I can hear everything...I feel that it kind of makes me focus on the details. Takstar on the other hand makes music more fun. Instead of focusing on details you get lost in the melody. The details are definately there, but they're harder to notice because you're busy enjoying the tunes :) Bass is really great...Some people say that 2050 is neutral, but I think it's bit on the warm side. But it might be I feel like that after listening mainly my hd681's. Highs are not as aggressive as on hd681 so takstar feels more laid back. Don't get me wrong, the treble is there it's just not that much in your face as it is with the luxes. Those only few hours listened and burn in is still in progress. I doubt that overall sound signature will change though. It is said on that takstar thread that these headphones need 100-200 hours burn in to really shine. Headphones are comfortable. I would prefer bit more clamping though. Anyway they're more comfy than hd681.  

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First thing i noticed was the soundstage. It is bigger than on hd681. Listening to hd681 I can hear everything...I feel that it kind of makes me focus on the details. Takstar on the other hand makes music more fun. Instead of focusing on details you get lost in the melody. The details are definately there, but they're harder to notice because you're busy enjoying the tunes :) Bass is really great...Some people say that 2050 is neutral, but I think it's bit on the warm side. But it might be I feel like that after listening mainly my hd681's. Highs are not as aggressive as on hd681 so takstar feels more laid back. Don't get me wrong, the treble is there it's just not that much in your face as it is with the luxes. Those only few hours listened and burn in is still in progress. I doubt that overall sound signature will change though. It is said on that takstar thread that these headphones need 100-200 hours burn in to really shine. Headphones are comfortable. I would prefer bit more clamping though. Anyway they're more comfy than hd681.  

sounds perfect for what I want. detailed but fun. and really cheap.

 

 

that's all I really wanted. something with detail similar to the 681 but funner and more comfortable 


Edited by Supertoaster - 7/4/12 at 5:28pm
post #35 of 56
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sounds perfect for what I want. detailed but fun. and really cheap.

 

 

that's all I really wanted. something with detail similar to the 681 but funner and more comfortable 

Sounds like you found a match, but the Jaycar Pro Monitor headphones are a steal at $70. They're an exact copy of the Fischer Audio FA-003 and the Brainwavs HM5 ($150 headphones that are said to be the some of the best in their price range), as all three come from a manufacturer in Taiwan called YoGa and use the same drivers. 

I own the Superlux, and it's night and day between them and my Jaycars. 

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Sounds like you found a match, but the Jaycar Pro Monitor headphones are a steal at $70. They're an exact copy of the Fischer Audio FA-003 and the Brainwavs HM5 ($150 headphones that are said to be the some of the best in their price range), as all three come from a manufacturer in Taiwan called YoGa and use the same drivers. 

I own the Superlux, and it's night and day between them and my Jaycars. 

what are some characteristics of the jaycars?

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what are some characteristics of the jaycars?


They're closed, which makes for better bass response but slightly worse soundstaging than the Superlux. There is very little clamping force, and I can wear mine for 6-7 hours no problem.

The first thing I noticed about them was the bass. While not being overpowering or "boomy", it sounded accurate and right where it needed to be. 

They don't have the typical "fun" sound, but they sound so accurate that they're positively thrilling to listen to.

If you want more reviews/opinions, look for Brainwavs HM5, Fischer Audio-FA003 and the  Lindy Premium Hi-Fi. They're all the same headphone, made in the same facility, but sold by different companies at different prices.

post #38 of 56
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They're closed, which makes for better bass response but slightly worse soundstaging than the Superlux. There is very little clamping force, and I can wear mine for 6-7 hours no problem.

The first thing I noticed about them was the bass. While not being overpowering or "boomy", it sounded accurate and right where it needed to be. 

They don't have the typical "fun" sound, but they sound so accurate that they're positively thrilling to listen to.

If you want more reviews/opinions, look for Brainwavs HM5, Fischer Audio-FA003 and the  Lindy Premium Hi-Fi. They're all the same headphone, made in the same facility, but sold by different companies at different prices.

Those look very good too but I'm still leaning more towards the Takstar.  I'm not a huge fan of closed headphones.

post #39 of 56
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Is there anything more compact and smaller then the Takstar? I'm not a huge fan of giant headphones either :(

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If portability is a big concern, an open/semi-open set won't be of much service, IMO. It's going to leak sound and not provide much isolation. 

 

In your price range, most headphones are going to be closed. This is kind of just a reality of sub $100 headphones, as they're likely to get plugged into iPods in noisy environments from Mid-Fi'ers like myself. Additionally, closed sets tend to have a more "fun" sound due to increased bass response.

 

If you really don't like closed headphones, yet want a fun sound, maybe IEMs would be up your alley.

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If portability is a big concern, an open/semi-open set won't be of much service, IMO. It's going to leak sound and not provide much isolation. 

 

In your price range, most headphones are going to be closed. This is kind of just a reality of sub $100 headphones, as they're likely to get plugged into iPods in noisy environments from Mid-Fi'ers like myself. Additionally, closed sets tend to have a more "fun" sound due to increased bass response.

 

If you really don't like closed headphones, yet want a fun sound, maybe IEMs would be up your alley.

I don't need portability or isolation. I just don't like huge headphones. And I will try closed as long as they have a good enough soundstage. 

 

I was thinking about the Creative Aurvana Live. I've heard they are very comfortable and have a 'fun' sound. Anyone have experience with these?


Edited by Supertoaster - 7/9/12 at 4:03am
post #42 of 56

I'm getting my 681's today. Have you thought about just modding them? I ordered some Black Dragon cable from moon audio, a neutrik 3.5mm jack, and some velour pads for mine per the recommendations from rock-grotto. Also ordered the parts for the filter haha. I probably spent more than a good pair of headphones but since you already have them, why not? 

 

P.S. First post!

post #43 of 56
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I'm getting my 681's today. Have you thought about just modding them? I ordered some Black Dragon cable from moon audio, a neutrik 3.5mm jack, and some velour pads for mine per the recommendations from rock-grotto. Also ordered the parts for the filter haha. I probably spent more than a good pair of headphones but since you already have them, why not? 

 

P.S. First post!

Welcome to Head-Fi!.

 

Be careful trying to mod them because those internal wires are delicate. That's how I broke them (don't worry, it was user error). I recently bought some DT770 Pro/80's to replace them.


Edited by Supertoaster - 3/21/13 at 2:45pm
post #44 of 56

Just received my velour pads for my 681.  More comfortable now, but they sound brighter & a little thinner.  I am wondering why this would be?

post #45 of 56

I also would like to know what a good upgrade to the hd-681 could be up to 130$. I read that the takstar have weaker bass to the superlux and I nearly can't imagine the oposite. My 681 can make a such a deep and powerful bass that my eardrums feel like a brush is tickling them. I never heard such a powerful bass and never felt this on my eardrum in my life.

These headphones are so much fun, they regularly make me smile when I hear them.

What I want is a deeper soundstage. I'm no expert but I think the width is very good but there is a lack of deepness in the soundstage.

Of course less harsh highs would be an important thing, more separation and of course the same powerful bass.

Better comfort would be fine, too. They should also work good without amp.

 

in short:

I love how much fun the superlux are, what headphone is even better with a similar signature for under 130$?

 

 

Edit:

I read about the jaycar/ HM5 / Fa-003 but what I read is that they might have a weaker bass than the superlux and the jaycar aren't available in Germany.


Edited by madmarty - 4/6/13 at 3:04am
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