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post #16 of 62

I was unfortunately just a passenger on that drive, Since I'm technically employed only by the Toyota dealership, it's very rare for me to have an excuse to drive anything from the Lexus half of the dealership. But when someone was taking it over to the gas station, I couldn't help but hop in the passenger seat, which I was soon effortlessly pinned to. What impressed me, was that at the same time, it felt smooth as butter in every way. I'd love a chance to drive one, but it's well above my pay grade for now. (after all, I'm a seasonal employee/college student that parks/washes cars and mows the grass).

 

And yes, Hyundai has definitely stepped up its game, the Elantra especially seems to run forever. But Honda and Toyota seem to win out (personally, from just the first and 2nd hand experience I've had) more so. I'm also partial to the road-feel that Honda's seem to have, and the way they set up their shifters. I'll take a long throw and effortless, smooth as ice shifting over a short, notchy throw like a lot of other companies seem to trade for. (prime example is Civic SI vs the Carolla S. the throw on the S is shorter, but much stiffer, at least in those that I've driven, and they don't seem much better on used ones either, where as the SI is a little longer, but smooth enough it feels like you could let go halfway through through the throw and let it glide into gear)

post #17 of 62
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Ohhh I see. The smoothness Of the power delivery was probably courtesy of the 8 speed transmission. After all most Toyota/Lexus vehicles drive smoothly. Do you plan on moving into a salesperson position? They can make very good money. Especially because it's Toyota, the worlds most sold vehicles.

I must agree with you, Hyundai has definately improved over the past 2 years. The reason Toyota and honda win over Hyundai and Kia is because of their past track record. They have proven their vehicles are excellent. My parents actually had a 2009 corolla S but it was automatic:(

About the FR-S, has your dealership gotten one? They look awesome on the internet.
post #18 of 62

Sure reliability is nice, but that 8-speed gearbox on the IS-F sucks because of the gear ratios. And I stopped caring about Honda after they abandoned double-wishbone suspensions.

post #19 of 62

197

 

We've sold a few (including this one), and we currently have one in stock. Beautiful, and I love the exhaust tone of the boxer engine, although all the techs are grumpy because its a Subaru engine, which I personally see no problem with.

 

 

As for moving up to a sales position, I know it can be pretty profitable, and my product knowledge isn't bad, but I'm not that much of a people person, persay. Besides, I should be able to make a good living once I get my masters in electrical engineering . The downside is all the college debt, hahah.

 

 

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I stopped caring about Honda after they abandoned double-wishbone suspensions.

So true, I miss my 98 hatch with the double wishbone. It couldn't get out of its own way as far as acceleration, but it stuck in the corners like no other. My current 03 sedan has the mcphearson strut suspension, and it's just not the same.

post #20 of 62
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I stopped caring about Honda after they abandoned double-wishbone suspensions.

So true, I miss my 98 hatch with the double wishbone. It couldn't get out of its own way as far as acceleration, but it stuck in the corners like no other. My current 03 sedan has the mcphearson strut suspension, and it's just not the same.

My friend's 97 Accord base model with all 4 shocks blown and stock 250,000 suspension handles better, while also being more comfortable than my '03 Mazda Protege. It's even more comfortable than midsize sedans like Altimas, it's insane. After driving it I just developed a hate for my car. haha

post #21 of 62
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My friend's 97 Accord base model with all 4 shocks blown and stock 250,000 suspension handles better, while also being more comfortable than my '03 Mazda Protege. It's even more comfortable than midsize sedans like Altimas, it's insane. After driving it I just developed a hate for my car. haha

Would you recommend a 97" or for that matter any accord year as a first car? I am looking to spend arounf 5-6k on a first car. I want a manual. Also I want reliability, fuel efficient and some what perfromance. I was thinking about getting the intergra gsr, what do you think? Keep in mind I live in Canada so no RWD!

Absolutely, as long as you can find one in great condition. Finding manual Accords, atleast where I live is almost impossible though. Integras are great cars too. I was looking for one of those when I was searching for a first car, but most GS-Rs and even the EX were selling for over $8,000 at the time which is insane especially since most were modified.

1997-2001 Honda Preludes are also quite good, and a lot cheaper than Integras.

post #22 of 62

With any honda used, remember: timing belt (and water pump, while you're in there) at 90k is not a regular maintenance you want to skip. if you tear a timing belt on a honda engine, it 'll usually bend a few valves, at the least. You can go 11k on a single oil change if you must (that's really pushing it though), but don't skip that timing belt or it could bite you!

 

Also, sticking with manual is good for honda, since their older automatic transmissions were the most breakage-prone part of the drivetrain.

 

and check for rust, especially up north. The rear quarter panel is always prone to rusting on them. "honda cancer" as it were. With that said, my old hatch, which has over 225k miles on it now with its new owner, and has been wrecked 3 times by several different people, has never needed anything beyond regular maintenance and a new muffler/header. that little thing was tough as nails, and I hope the new owner lets me know when it passes 250k

post #23 of 62

The AMG is a sexy carbeerchug.gif

post #24 of 62
Thread Starter 

What do you guys think of the following as a first car. In other words which would you recommend as a first car:'

-Nissan Altima 3.5 Manual

-Nissan Altima 2.5 Manual

-Acura Integra GSR Manual

-Honda Accord Manual 

-Infiniti G20 manual

 

Keeping in mind I live in Canada and I am looking to spend 5-7k. Which of the following, in your opinion and expirience, provide a nice ride, power, efficiency and reliability. 

post #25 of 62

Altimas are too big, have insane amount of body roll and the ride is nowhere near as nice as the Hondas. That Infiniti is just a rebadged Sentra, but they are quite cheap. I've seen some go for as low as $3,000 USD in good conditions.

 

 

What model year car are you interested in? I don't know if you could get a Mazda6 for that, but I love how it looks and it's smaller than most midsize sedans.

 

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I suggest you test drive them all, and go for the one you prefer. You'll definitely have more fun with a small, light car though. :P 


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post #26 of 62
Thread Starter 

The mazda 6 do look ok, but are too expensive for my budget. And beisdes if I was gonna buy, i'd rather take the Mazdaspeed3.

 

The Nissan altima's are out than. Same with the infiniti.

 

Which Honda/Acura do you think Is best than?

I was thinking

1998-2003 Honda Accord Sedan Manual( The problem with these is the interior, it's not very nice)

1998-2001 Acura Integra GS,Limited Edition

2000-2001 Acura Integra GSR( this is the choice im leaning towards)

 

I was only leaning towards the GSR because it has the v-tech engine. Does it really make a difference? 

 

Oh, and i forgot one choice: 1999-2003 toyota solara manual.

post #27 of 62

Oh yes, the GSR engine makes a difference. It's got almost 200hp. Have you checked Lexus IS 300 prices aswell? That's a great car.

 

I'm not a big fan of Toyotas, and that Solara looks fairly boring. The Accord is probably a better car. There's also the 1997-2001 Honda Prelude which is basically a 2-door accord. It's not as sporty as the GSR, it's more of a GT car but it's just as fast and maybe a little more comfortable. The Prelude would be my 2nd choice if I couldn't find an Integra in good conditions.

 

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post #28 of 62
Thread Starter 
The gsr has more like 170 horsepower and it lowers over the years. Also I read the v-tech is good at high rpms and redline.

I would buy the is300 but it's rear-wheel drive and I live in Canada so....

I was looking at the Honda prelude too but I think I like the gsr more. I haven't test driven either yet though.

Any other recommendations?
post #29 of 62

Agreed, the solaras are a bit weird, both in handling and how they feel to drive. I'll second the hunt for an IS300 though, they are NICE, without a doubt. They handle great too, and luckily are free of the standard "toyota" feel (mushy and rolly). They ARE RWD though, which I assume would make them a pain in the rear for the snow (pun intended). The Integras are nice though, especially the GSR integras.

post #30 of 62

I thought GSRs had the B18 with 197 HP, I don't really remember lol. I do know the Preludes have the H22 wish is a greeeeeeat engine. If I could I would get rid of my Protege and get a Prelude with that engine.

 

I forgot about the RWD thing. Are there any AWD cars you're also interested in? Other than the obvious choice of Subarus lol.

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