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post #16 of 33
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Exactly. LFF has a glowing review of it on the site.

The Fischer Audio FA-011 are 160-Ohm, which the Xonar DG should be OK with.

post #17 of 33
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Just got in the ATH-AD700s (ordered them before I knew about the bass issues. Going to return them). The bass that is present has a solid punch to it but just isn't there in quantity. They are very brilliant in the highs and slightly lagging in the mids. The clarity is excellent and I know what people say when they talk about the soundstage, it is ENORMOUS and fantastically precise. I can easily distinguish between the different instruments. Hopefully the FA-011 provides the same assets as this one without all the liabilities!

post #18 of 33
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After testing out the ATH-AD700s with some piano I can assure you that that is its true calling. It sounds GLORIOUS the clarity the tone, it's simply perfect. I can hear the keys bottoming out it sounds as if I am there playing it myself. I can hear EXACTLY where every key is as it is pressed. Amazing.

post #19 of 33
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Alright so I received the FA-011's and these are my thoughts. The Bass is a significant improvement over the ad700s and the sound overall is more rounded and full. The mids have also improved. The ad700s do have a certain "bite" to them in the higher frequencies that I think adds a level of clarity that the FA-011s lack but I'm not sure that would have been possible if you had put in the same level of bass. The soundstage, while not as big as the ad700s, is substantial and seems rather accurate. All in total its a bit of a tradeoff, you're giving away some clarity to get a full rich sound. As for the comfort the FA-011s ARE UNBELIEVABLY COMFORTABLE. They rest on your head like a cloud. I'm still testing them and I"ll provide updates as I discover more. Also, axelcloris, Is that pipe tobacco I smell on these?

post #20 of 33
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Originally Posted by gamerfry View Post

Alright so I received the FA-011's and these are my thoughts. The Bass is a significant improvement over the ad700s and the sound overall is more rounded and full. The mids have also improved. The ad700s do have a certain "bite" to them in the higher frequencies that I think adds a level of clarity that the FA-011s lack but I'm not sure that would have been possible if you had put in the same level of bass. The soundstage, while not as big as the ad700s, is substantial and seems rather accurate. All in total its a bit of a tradeoff, you're giving away some clarity to get a full rich sound. As for the comfort the FA-011s ARE UNBELIEVABLY COMFORTABLE. They rest on your head like a cloud. I'm still testing them and I"ll provide updates as I discover more. Also, axelcloris, Is that pipe tobacco I smell on these?

Gamefly, where are you located?

Do you have the Xonar DG set to the hightest gain setting (>64-Ohm), at 160-Ohm, the FA-011 needs voltage.

 

A 100 hours of use with the FA-011 might improve their sound.

 

The Xonar DG is a half-way decent headphone amplifier and DAC.

Adding an external headphone amplifer should give at least a little improvement to the FA-011.

On eBay they sell single tube headphone amplifier from $50-$120, ships from China.

 

Or a

Little Dot 1 + Hybrid tube amp.

O2 (Objective 2)


Edited by PurpleAngel - 7/2/12 at 11:22am
post #21 of 33
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Gamefly, where are you located?

 

A 100 hours of use with the FA-011 might improve their sound.

 

The Xonar DG is a half-way decent headphone amplifier and DAC.

Adding an external headphone amplifer should give at least a little improvement to the FA-011.

On eBay they sell single tube headphone amplifier from $50-$120, ships from China.

 

Or a

Little Dot 1 + Hybrid tube amp.

O2 (Objective 2)

I'm in Chicago. Also Axelcloris said he had used them for ~150 hours so I'm assuming they're already as broken in as they will get. I have noticed that this thing sucks a lot of power so I'm sure a better amp would help I have this thing cranked up to about 75% to get a decent volume.

post #22 of 33
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oh and yes it is to the >64 ohm setting

post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by gamerfry View Post

Alright so I received the FA-011's and these are my thoughts. The Bass is a significant improvement over the ad700s and the sound overall is more rounded and full. The mids have also improved. The ad700s do have a certain "bite" to them in the higher frequencies that I think adds a level of clarity that the FA-011s lack but I'm not sure that would have been possible if you had put in the same level of bass. The soundstage, while not as big as the ad700s, is substantial and seems rather accurate. All in total its a bit of a tradeoff, you're giving away some clarity to get a full rich sound. As for the comfort the FA-011s ARE UNBELIEVABLY COMFORTABLE. They rest on your head like a cloud. I'm still testing them and I"ll provide updates as I discover more. Also, axelcloris, Is that pipe tobacco I smell on these?

 

Pipe tobacco? I certainly hope not, as I'm a non-smoker and live alone. :p Maybe the air from cleaning the tiny area around where the mesh and wood met that I couldn't reach with a cloth?

post #24 of 33
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Pipe tobacco? I certainly hope not, as I'm a non-smoker and live alone. :p Maybe the air from cleaning the tiny area around where the mesh and wood met that I couldn't reach with a cloth?

maybe haha crazy. Axel what were your thoughts on these?

post #25 of 33
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Alright here's an update now that I've had time to decently test these. The bass is as solid as people say very tight and punch, very deep, while at the same time never becoming overwhelming. Silibance can be an issue as the highs are emphasized and so on some very particular songs it can be a bit painful but that is rare. Something I have noticed is that VERY RARELY (only one instance so far) there is a slight distortion. The instance I noticed is on the song "sax quartet" from the cowboy bebop soundtrack. At 27 seconds when all the saxs are playing there is a pressure and a distortion and when I compared it to my other headphones this was the only one to have it. Like I said though, this only happened once. As I mentioned before it doesn't have the same kind of "bite" that the ad700s have on some acoustic songs(which is really where the ad700 shines imho) however notes are clear and crisp. What really makes these phones beautiful is how full the sound is. Every note, while not necessarily the most crisp, is lush and full. The overall listening experience is deep and fantastic.

post #26 of 33
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maybe haha crazy. Axel what were your thoughts on these?

 

Honestly, I gotta say that you and I have similar opinions of them when it comes to music. I do have Sax Quartet as well, but I can't recall listening to it on the Fischers.  If you want a suggestion, listen to Space Lion off the first OST. Start it up, close your eyes, and just melt... seriously, it's that good on them. And I still maintain that they are one hell of an all rounder for their price. My only beef with them, and I mentioned this before in another thread, is that when I'm listening to them while running Dolby Headphone the soundstage feels off. And for gaming, I don't like my bass quite that high; I imagine it's great for some but it was a bit too much for me.

post #27 of 33
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

 

Honestly, I gotta say that you and I have similar opinions of them when it comes to music. I do have Sax Quartet as well, but I can't recall listening to it on the Fischers.  If you want a suggestion, listen to Space Lion off the first OST. Start it up, close your eyes, and just melt... seriously, it's that good on them. And I still maintain that they are one hell of an all rounder for their price. My only beef with them, and I mentioned this before in another thread, is that when I'm listening to them while running Dolby Headphone the soundstage feels off. And for gaming, I don't like my bass quite that high; I imagine it's great for some but it was a bit too much for me.

I actually noticed that about the dolby headphone. I think it's because as LFF mentioned in his review the soundstage actually is a bit exaggerated and covers 220 degrees instead of the usual 180. I think this causes the virtual speakers to sound ever so out of place. I actually don't mind the bass being high since it isn't muddy.

post #28 of 33
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OH MY GOD you just blew my brain to pieces. That ambient bass, the crisp sound of the hands on the drums, the wail of the saxophone, that...is nirvana.

post #29 of 33
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OH MY GOD you just blew my brain to pieces. That ambient bass, the crisp sound of the hands on the drums, the wail of the saxophone, that...is nirvana.

 

The first time I heard that I had my computer on shuffle. I was actually online reading, and I just froze and listened. It was one of the best sounds I had ever heard... and none of my current headphones can do it as much justice as the Fischers did. I'm really glad you like them, so happy they went to someone who will appreciate them :D

post #30 of 33

In my Audio technica collection i have the AD700's, M50's and a pair of ATH-ES7. And to be honest I'm happy with all of them. However each excel in a different area. 

 

AD700 - These do lack a lot of bass and are open so you need a quiet space, If your into techno or metal steer clear of these. I only use these for chilling on my beanbag listening to acoustic and classical tracks... the high end and sound stage is almost orgasmic (for this price range). They aren't cheap feeling but they get older they do "creek" if you move (because of the plastic wings). 

 

M50 - I use these at work, they are good all rounders.. and out of all three they have best all round sound reproduction... Probably a little to big for the bus but are extremely well finished. All the senhiser people at work have conceded these are the shiznit. 

 

ES7 - Beautiful looking headphones that literally do turn heads in public.. They sound very similar to the M50s in a more compact housing, because of the size the M50's have a little more depth. But these rock out in a public environment. Oh and the cord is a little cheep with these (in connects to both cans which is a bit crap for a headphone in this price range)  

 

Summary -Which are my favorites? I would say hands down the AD700's. But if you asked me "which pair most are the best value and people would like?" I would have to steer  towards the M50's. As the AD700's excel in only one area.... My beanbag :)

 

Oh as this is my first post just so you guys know. I'm a 30 something web developer who deals with a crap tone of audio editing

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