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post #16 of 62

@bowei006

well, tried it on my laptop (core 2 duo 2.4, 3Gb RAM)...same story...when I switch back to the usual USB out driver, frame rate and smoothness of the visualisation components playback are back...

post #17 of 62
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Originally Posted by plasmoic View Post

@bowei006

well, tried it on my laptop (core 2 duo 2.4, 3Gb RAM)...same story...when I switch back to the usual USB out driver, frame rate and smoothness of the visualisation components playback are back...

Foobar has a choice or settings for visualizatons

 

How many bands are you viewing?....

post #18 of 62
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Foobar has a choice or settings for visualizatons

 

How many bands are you viewing?....

currently my settings are with 40 but tried it with 20 and 10..same story

the interesting part is that, which I just figured out, the bars rise before the song starts, say before I hear it :) (with asio)

when I switch back to Sound wave, the bars rise together with the sound..

 

so this latency maybe one of symptoms too...

post #19 of 62
Im not able to confirm this as I dont have the device anymore but let fiio know if they havent read your post yet. Depending on if others get the same latency bug on dispay or not it may warrant another update from fiio
post #20 of 62
Already got the feedback
post #21 of 62

This driver just crashed my WinXP 32bit system :/

post #22 of 62

Didnt experience a crash in winxp or win7 (32)...

also, apart from the latency issue I pointed out before, these drivers solved another problem I had with e17.

Clicking was an issue especially with my laptop (win7)..(I read somewhere that this could be due to power issues, like several USB outputs actually sharing the same hub)

But now with ASIO drivers I dont have this any more...
 

post #23 of 62
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Didnt experience a crash in winxp or win7 (32)...

also, apart from the latency issue I pointed out before, these drivers solved another problem I had with e17.

Clicking was an issue especially with my laptop (win7)..(I read somewhere that this could be due to power issues, like several USB outputs actually sharing the same hub)

But now with ASIO drivers I dont have this any more...
 

 

Good to hear that.

post #24 of 62

EDIT: Sorry this is so long but I hope someone can help me.  I think this would be useful to know for anybody that may look into this.  I would be very grateful. 

 

So.. I'm just confused.  I'm not sure how I could find out any of the following stuff without help XD.  Just to mention, I've always understood that if randomly installing a bunch of things or even by default that somewhere along the chain, the sound could be impaired (it may not be transferred bit for bit).  I understood pretty much all parts of the chain with sufficient clarity.  For this reason, I started using and still use Media Player Classic for everything because it shows what's being implemented for the whole decoding and transcoding (or the opposite rather) process.  In my case, I use the latest version of AC3Filter and it shows the entire chain.  It pretty much does the full thing. 

 

So I really just now stumbled upon ASIO and installed ASIO4All on the XP system I'm currently on after reading up on it.  I tried using it with the Windows Media Player plug-in for it.  No matter what I tried, it didn't seem to output to the DAC; it didn't seem to find it and instead just said "USB Audio".  Searching "FiiO E17" with "ASIO", I stumbled upon this and as usual, you guys are awesome and actively wrote your own thing for it.  Thanks for that; things like this don't go unnoticed by me.  1The one thing that bothers me I guess is that the E17 doesn't display the same values as the output the driver GUI displays, even though I'm sure it receives the signal correctly.  But anyway, I don't understand how this ASIO driver does what the fundamental idea behind it should be.  2Wouldn't it in this case just be something extra on top of the AC3Filter processes already - just another thing at the end of the chain?  3The chain indicated within AC3Filter before was "-> AudioDecoder (MP3) -> (PCM Float Stereo 44100) -> AudioProcessor -> (PCM24 Stereo 44100) -> Dejitter -> (PCM24 Stereo 44100)" (I have the output set to 24-bit) and it still is now.  Maybe it just doesn't show the effects of this driver but Media Player Classic also doesn't seem to indicate any interfacing with it.  The only indication I actually have of it working and doing something is the "Streaming Status" which I like because at least I know exactly what's being sent to the DAC. 

 

4I assumed that the point of ASIO was for it to pass through everything after "(PCM Float Stereo 44100)" in the chain or at least to replace and better handle it.  5I'm also curious if it automatically runs or if it actually needs to be open to have any effect.  If it's the latter, that also seems to defeat the purpose as I thought it's supposed to be internal.  I'm not sure at all about the effect it has on something like Windows Media Player as I have no idea how it handles anything.  6What does it actually technically do, whether it's changes or additional functions to what already was?  Is it even supposed to be what I understand it to be - a replacement for ASIO4All for better compatibility?  It was commented here that it's merely a driver for the most part.  So then, is it any different than the default installed drivers by Windows when the device is recognized in relation to that it would simply route the end of the chain to the appropriate USB host (if I'm saying that right >.<)?  7Finally, the ASIO Driver Status always says "Non-Active" & "Stop".  What does this mean?

 

A response to mentioned inquiries (numbered 1-7) would be EXTREMELY helpful!  I mean, it would really be appreciated, sincerely; thank you!  I really just don't know how else I could figure any of these things out getting less thanat least a comment in response to them. 

 

 

PS- 8On a sort of related note, what's concerning me is that the E17 seems to not be compatible with significant things which other amps are (even the E7 which is its predecessor), e.g., USB OTG for new Android phones it doesn't work with which makes no sense to me especially when there's an included USB Charge "Off" functionality, and now, something as basic (from what I gather) as default ASIO implementations (maybe that has something to do with a DSP chip).  In general, these things make me question certain things relatively, but mainly it's the whole not interfacing with new Android phones like the Samsung Galaxy S3.


Edited by Typhoon859 - 8/1/12 at 3:55pm
post #25 of 62

OK... let's first take a moment to review my setup:

 

Dell Inspiron E1705

SigmaTel HiDef Audio Codecs

USB2

Win7 SP1

FiiO E9

FiiO E17

Sennheiser HD650

Music Files: FLAC including 16 and 24 bit

 

I've always been pretty happy with the music sound quality but you know us nerds... always looking to get just a little better performance. So I installed the ASIO driver and setup everything as listed in this guide. No issues. :)

 

So I queued up some tracks and been listening for the last couple of hours.I've noticed a bit of improvement in the music. Nothing dramatic but the sound stage seems to be wider and the instruments seems to be tighter. I like it. :) If I were to have rated my listening pleasure BEFORE installing this I would rate it an 88. I think now I might be a 90.

 

Small improvement but obvious to my ears. In other words... it DEFINITELY didn't make it worse.

 

Thanks - Jeremiah

post #26 of 62

Could you please re-upload the foo_asio_out.zip file?

post #27 of 62
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Originally Posted by gEaK View Post

Could you please re-upload the foo_asio_out.zip file?

 

Done!

post #28 of 62

Thanks, I managed to install the driver fine however I'm experiencing a problem, hopefully you can help.

 

When I use the "ASIO: FIIO E17 DAC ASIO DRIVER" in the foobar output, there is a lag/buffer time of about 1 second whenever a new track plays, or when skipping through a track.

 

This does not happen if I select the standard "DS: SPDIF OUT (2-FIIO USB DAC-E17)" or "WASAPI: SPDIF OUT (2-FIIO USB DAC-E17)" outputs.

 

I would just use the WASAPI output, however it's really annoying having to close foobar and restart firefox every time you want to stream something online.

 

Any help would be much appreciated, cheers.

post #29 of 62

The "foo_out_asio.zip" link doesn't work anymore.

post #30 of 62

Please try again.

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