Originally Posted by derbigpr
3) End of discussion for me. I just feel sorry for those naive people who will rush out and buy amps that cost more than their HD650's, and then will be hugely disappointed because they will see their HD650's still sound like...HD650's.
I think for the strong HD650 fans including myself, we'd be more dissappointed if something made them not sound like HD650s. It's a unique sound that those that really like it really like it, and seek to improve upon it without changing its nature. No other headphone has that type of voicing. I think the folks you're referring to are the ones that aren't overly fond of the sound of HD650 and always feel like there's something wrong with the setup to "fix" them to sound like a different headphone that's voiced in a way they don't dislike as much. There's a difference in squeezing out higher performance without wrecking the sound signature, which the HD650's are highly capable of, versus trying to make them sound like a differently voiced headphone.
And there is the classic 10 year old schism of the HD650 in a nutshell. Those that love HD650 because they understand and love the sound signature they have and wouldn't want to ruin that tone, and those that love HD650 because they're told they're the best thing ever, but when they listen to them they never get they experience they actually wanted and forever try to change them.
Originally Posted by ardilla
Nah,I'm not saying that. I'm saying 1500 amp isn't wasted on the 650.
Anyway, if you enjoy the HD650 with a budget amp, please enjoy.
If you buy a really nice amp, don't sell your Hd650.
Right! Basically, it's probable that a superior headphone on a superior amp will beat an HD650 on an inferior amp. It's probable that a superior headphone on a superior amp will beat (or equal, in your WA22 review) the HD650 on the same superior amp. But it's also possible for an HD650 on a superior amp to best a superior headphone on an inferior amp. Everyone fights over the headphones and no one seems to remember they're building an audio system. All the components together are your "audio system", not one component alone, and superior/inferior of individual components are meaningless since the combinations can be greater than the sums of their parts.