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post #91 of 995

Nice review....Should we rename the thread "Affordable audio is a scam"?....biggrin.gif

post #92 of 995

High end audio is as much a scam as art or fine wine. Some people want to pay millions for a piece of canvas with some paint on it. Others pay $2000 for a bottle of Chateau Petrus. I don't believe in 5000 dollar connects or a 15000 dollar CD player. However, I do know that these things are made in very small quantities and that the fixed costs are probably high. I'm very happy with the sound quality of my $800 iBasso DX100, even though the software is utterly cr@p. Everyone has something they want to pay big bucks for.

post #93 of 995
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Originally Posted by Singapura View Post

High end audio is as much a scam as art or fine wine. Some people want to pay millions for a piece of canvas with some paint on it. Others pay $2000 for a bottle of Chateau Petrus. I don't believe in 5000 dollar connects or a 15000 dollar CD player. However, I do know that these things are made in very small quantities and that the fixed costs are probably high. I'm very happy with the sound quality of my $800 iBasso DX100, even though the software is utterly cr@p. Everyone has something they want to pay big bucks for.

It's not the case my friend..if you ever get the chance to hear them for yourself or you are ever in ibiza, come and have a listen you will be blown away! p.s the dx100s are good i agree, try it with some jh16's or ue 18 custom pros!


Edited by our martin - 6/24/12 at 8:08am
post #94 of 995
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Our Martin I have heard many many high set-ups. I used to sell very high end home equipment.Mart-Logan,Krell,Wadia,etc. Just for fun i had some generic speaker wire around the shop and with regular customers i would say " Listen to this new cable from Icarus acoustics,its supposwsed to be the best.. Just about every "audiophile" went nuts,talking about increased dynamics,soundstage opening up,etc. Some even wanted to buy it even when i said it cost $10,000. Of course i didnt acutally sell it,I just said it was a demo and not for sale,lol.
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Our Martin I have heard many many high set-ups. I used to sell very high end home equipment.Mart-Logan,Krell,Wadia,etc. Just for fun i had some generic speaker wire around the shop and with regular customers i would say " Listen to this new cable from Icarus acoustics,its supposwsed to be the best.. Just about every "audiophile" went nuts,talking about increased dynamics,soundstage opening up,etc. Some even wanted to buy it even when i said it cost $10,000. Of course i didnt acutally sell it,I just said it was a demo and not for sale,lol.

If you are ever in ibiza come and have a listen! krell sound good with martin logan speakers and naim gear aswell! p.s I see your into car audio, what do you think is the best car audio system?


Edited by our martin - 6/25/12 at 8:58am
post #96 of 995

This definately falls into the category of being able to hear and discern the differences or not.

post #97 of 995
Thread Starter 

Best Car audio? Thats a tough one. I would have to go with some of the lower priced Focal components as being the best bang for your dollar. For Subs I would go with Sundown Audio. If I ever am in England I'll glady stop by for a listen. :)

post #98 of 995
Hey, if a wealthy audiophile wants to pump their cash into boutique cables, more power to them. They've likely heard the arguments before and they know the drill. Audio newbies, especially those who scrounge to make their purchases, need to be made aware of the debate. Even if, and that's a massive "if", some small amount of sonic difference can be heard, such things should only be considered after they've hammered out all the details with the remainder of their chain.
post #99 of 995
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Best Car audio? Thats a tough one. I would have to go with some of the lower priced Focal components as being the best bang for your dollar. For Subs I would go with Sundown Audio. If I ever am in England I'll glady stop by for a listen. :)

Pioneer are good bang for the buck my friend!

post #100 of 995
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Hey, if a wealthy audiophile wants to pump their cash into boutique cables, more power to them. They've likely heard the arguments before and they know the drill. Audio newbies, especially those who scrounge to make their purchases, need to be made aware of the debate. Even if, and that's a massive "if", some small amount of sonic difference can be heard, such things should only be considered after they've hammered out all the details with the remainder of their chain.

You can buy speaker cable from richer sounds in england that you pay for buy the metre,it works out about £30 and is supposed to do the job and improve the sound on the standard speaker cable that comes with the speakers!http://www.richersounds.com/products/hi-fi-separates/.../speaker-cables


Edited by our martin - 6/25/12 at 12:30pm
post #101 of 995

I remember when Alpine, Kenwood,  and Blaupunkt was all the craze and you weren't "in" if you didn't have these brands installed.  On the topic of hi-end car audio, a co-worker of mine just blew $1K on professionally installed Dynamat with his factory installed Bose audio system in his Infiniti. I couldn't believe how much quieter it was inside the cabin and how much better the sound was when in motion.  Without exaggeration, it was like night and day difference.  I may do this later down the road.


Edited by alphaphoenix - 6/25/12 at 1:35pm
post #102 of 995

This is the way i look at this..With brands like bang and olufsen and bose you pay over the odds for them,and for the price you pay for them you could buy something better for a lot cheaper,you pay for the name and the design like prada..But with krell nothing comes anywhere near them, if you want the best you have got to pay for it,you couldn't buy anything cheaper that would sound anything like the krell evolution series amplifiers! Here's an example with bose..

It's £1300 in england not sure about the price everywhere else,it's a soundbar with a sub!samsung HW-E551-.jpgYou can get these from samsung for a £1000 cheaper! p.s I think all soundbars are overpriced not just bose!


Edited by our martin - 6/26/12 at 5:31am
post #103 of 995
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Originally Posted by billyhightech View Post

My $79 Grado sr60s sound better to me then many $10,000+ speakers I sold like Revel and Martin Logan.

 

Sorry man, I gotta say that Martin Logan Electrostat hybrids sound far, far better than Grado SR60 'phones.

There is absolutely no comparison.

In fact, they sound much better than RS-2i (I haven't heard the more expensive Grados).

 

But that's just my opinion and my experience...................wink_face.gif

post #104 of 995
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 I think all soundbars are overpriced not just bose!

I think these soundbars are more optimized for design , than for sound. Pointless, especially for TV. 

post #105 of 995
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

I think these soundbars are more optimized for design , than for sound. Pointless, especially for TV. 

wharf.jpgYou could buy any cheap amp and speakers, it would do the job better than any soundbar..cambridge.jpg


Edited by our martin - 6/26/12 at 7:49am
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