Originally Posted by sridhar3
Oh, I thought you said it was the cable that originally came with the HE-6 that turned green? Isn't that cable sheathed in that clear see-through plastic?
Yes and you can see the wire oxidizing to that lovely green through it.
Our visit to the A/V store gave some tasty presentations with different a/b class speaker amps today. We used flac files and cds through a Wavelength Proton through USB on JRiver and a Marantz and Ayre CD spinner. Our low end was a 55w Marantz integrated for $500ish. Then we moved to a Sim Integrated 50w for $1800. Oh baby. The Marantz was entertaining and the sound was full and engaging. But the Sim got rid of the fat around the instrument and sit it in position around the soundstage. There was a noticeable exposure to more information being fed the headphones. The spatial ques of the stage, a hot mic on a vocal, the textures of the instrument's intricate sounds. Patricia Barber's "Constantinople" was a new wow.
From there we moved to a PrimaLuna tube pre $2300 and push/pull amp 35w $2700 with an Ayre player. The sound was typical lush, serene tube sound with a bit less spatial feel. It impressed me that the music you listen to really has an impact on the components you choose. This rig with non electric instruments would be heaven. When you put on electric music, the engagement wasn't the same as the Sim.
Then we went into the next room and hooked up the next Sim Integrated 120w $5000 with the computer/Proton. The improvement from the 50 watt to the 120 watt wasn't as noticeable as the Marantz to the base Sim. The amount of power didn't do as much to the sound as the quality of it's power. The feeling of presence at the event is spooky real. The crowd noise puts you in the seats and moving your head to look at the stage. Last we moved to the 175w Sim Integrated $8600. Man, I want. The sparkle of Mick's chimes is the first thing that got my attention. The highs were alive, the stage again improved and took on a sense of 3d positioning. On The Dance "Tusk", the marching band comes in and you can hear the sway of the drum heads and horns as they come into line with the mic and then go behind the musician's body. You could hear every drum, every horn and didn't mind the goofy vocals of Buckingham.
We were offered the MacIntosh and Naim products and will be getting in some of the Cambridge products but the day was getting on so kindly declined. Perhaps another afternoon with those three. Given the accessibility of the gear, I could have stayed there and tried every model of every line they had.
Conclusion as to the amount of power or quality of power is still in question but I've come away giving the nod to quality of power. For value, the $1800 Sim was a keeper. If I pulled the lottery ticket from the store and was offered any of the amps, that 175w Sim and I could be sent to that island and I would be a happy camper. The 6s scale is limited by your budget but sound pretty damned good on even modest amps. The big power amps aren't necessary but the power supplies ability to open a flood of power on demand is key. If you can get that performance with less wattage, your good. I read a statement to give you an idea of what kind of demand is put on an amp. "peaks can be as much as 12 dB louder, which will demand 16 times
as much power from the amplifier, causing many lower-powered amplifiers or receivers to go into clipping."
Thank you Mark of Audible Elegance in Montgomery OH. for an entertaining and informative day. Extremely knowledgeable on today's changing product development and a career of experience to share with a hungry audiophile.Edited by Happy Camper - 8/29/12 at 9:53pm