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post #121 of 204
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Originally Posted by postrock View Post

Ever heard the Sennheiser HD228/229 or HD238/239? I'm reviewing them now and they have similarities to the PX-100 II's but brighter for sure. The sound a bit like the Jays if you pulled back thoes upper mids.

Not heard these. I've only recently dipped my toes into the portables arena when I bought my wife an ipod touch and V-Jays. Then needed another set for myself - enter your review thread and the PX100.

Soon, I'm going to let my wife choose which of the two she wants for herself. This will be the ultimate test.... because she is ALWAYS right dt880smile.png.

post #122 of 204
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Originally Posted by TheAttorney View Post

So, if the discrepancies are not simply due to personal preference, I can only think of 2 further possibilities:
  • You are insane, and have lost all sense of perspective and judgment
  • I am insane, and have lost all sense of perspective and judgment

 

Based on the thoroughness of your whole comparison reviews, I would say the former is highly unlikely.

So  I'm considering the latter as a distinct possibility....

 

I'd like to point out the possibility that the PX 100 could just be average - neither stellar nor dismal - and that you may both be [equally] off your respective rockers.  I'm not saying that's the case, just that we can't rule it out just yet.  smile.gif  Also @TheAttorney, you do realize that being insane would negate your ability to diagnose yourself as such right?  You know, dimished capacity and all that jazz.

 

But from your impressions, I think you would rather enjoy a Pioneer SE-MJ591.  It tends to be warm with forward mids, and I find the appearance of it perfectly respectable for a barrister - even in public.

post #123 of 204
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Originally Posted by JK1 View Post

Sony headphones are a mixed bag. Some are bad, but others are quite good. My Sony V6 is 24 years old and still works fine, although I did need to replace the earpads. the V6 is great. It sounds so neutral and natural. I disagree with you about the V6 lacking accuracy. Perhaps there may be something wrong with the one you have?

 

I haven't heard the JVC HA-M750. I used to be a big Sennheiser fan, however their recent pricing is much too high.

JK1,

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with mine. I've had them about 10 years and have also used others and they are the same. They are indeed a very neutral headphone for playback and listening. I was referring more to my experience with them in the studio for mixing tracks and mastering.

 

Take a look at the FR graphs:

1000

 

(top to bottom) Sony V6, Fostex T50-RP, Beyedynamic DT770 Pro

 

The Fostex is by far the most accurate across the spectrum. Bass response is similar on all three. The V6 has a pronounced dip in the 200-500 range (The DT-770 Pro has a slight drop off). If I were to mix a song with these I would be overcompensating for a weak upper bass, resulting in a mix that sounds too boomy on playback. There are spikes in the 3K-10K range which translates into upper mids sounding too recessed in the mix. But the biggest problem with them is that dramatic drop-off at 11K. Without hearing what's really going on up there you can end up with a lot of sibilance and even hiss. It also makes it hard to tell if there is enough "air" in the mix. The other two reach a good deal higher as you can see. You may notice that big drop-off at about 6K on the DT-770 Pro. I'm sure some engineers dislike it, but I've learned to compensate for it and it also makes them much less fatiguing. Of course most of us don't mix exclusively with headphones. That's why we have mega $$ studio monitors. But these days there are more and more home studio owners who can't blast their speakers into the wee hours in the morning so "mixing" headphones are a big seller. But I think it's cool that many consumers are using these kind of natural sounding headphones for home use. And I do think listening to something like the V6 can be a revelation for those that are used to a "fun" signature.

 

By the way, I know that charts do very little to tell how a headphone actually sounds, but when flatness really counts it's good to see how they graph out. But I would not put much stock into charts like these when it comes to either portables or hi-fi headphones. It's just all about what your ears think.

 

P.S. - Sorry, I thought I was you that had reviewed the JVC HA-M750 and HA-S600, but it was jant71. I'll have to get in touch with him on those burn-in questions.


Edited by postrock - 7/30/12 at 3:12pm
post #124 of 204

One person here in the forum that has the HAS600 is http://www.head-fi.org/u/185895/dsnuts. He may be able to help you out.

post #125 of 204
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

 

Wise words. I've had the PX100-II's for about 3 weeks now (probably at least 100 hours on them). And I have had my KSX75's (on headband) for approxmiately 5 weeks. I would have to agree that it is a subjective thing. I wrote my newbie impressions of the two headphones here:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/620326/senn-px100-ii-and-koss-ksc75-personal-comparison

 

My impressions may change over time, but the below from that link pretty much sums it up for now:

 

"But, when listening to the KSC75's, the above terms are what resonate with me - they sound amazing! Having said that, when flipping between them and the PX100II, it mainly just seems to be a "different sound". Both have their own sounds, and both sound awesome, and if I was forced to listen to either pair for the rest of my life, I'd be good with that (well, maybe if I hadn't read about those damned DT1350's!). But yes, I would have to say that I prefer the sound of the KSC75's. The thing that strikes me the most about them is that the instruments seem very "distinct", "separate", "punchy", and "in their own space" (my terms). Not bad for a $20 pair of drivers!

So for me, I'll probably end up listening to the KSC75's around the home the most (but frequently switching to the PX100II's when I need a good kick in the b-ass). But the rig that will be heading out the door with me will always be the PX100II's due to their durability/portability, and fuller bass which really helps at the gym."

Thanks Waynenumm! I was wondering when we would hear back from you. I read your full post and just wanted to say good job. Since, I don't have the KSC75 I can only compare with the PortaPro, which I know is not the same sound sig. even though they use very similar drivers. You def. have two very different sounding headphones to compare. That's probably a good thing. They are so different I'm sure and do different things well.

 

I also wanted to say...if you end up getting they DT1350's, they should be pretty mind-blowing considering what you have now. Easily one of very best portables at any price. I wish I owned a pair. I borrowed a pair for a few days earlier this year and am totally smitten.

post #126 of 204
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Still burning in many headphones for my upcoming mid-level reviews. Biggest surprise so far? The Superlux HD631. I have the HD661 also, which is visually and sonically similar to the Sony V6 so I knew what I was getting there. But my contact also sent me the HD631 "Professional DJ Headphone" which is a pretty big beast with 51mm drivers. I honestly didn't expect to like these since I've rarely heard a DJ can that impressed me. But these are impressive. Yes, the bass is very deep but not ridiculous and not at the expense of the mids and treble, which are pretty superb, even OOTB. 

post #127 of 204
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Originally Posted by postrock View Post

Thanks Waynenumm! I was wondering when we would hear back from you. I read your full post and just wanted to say good job. Since, I don't have the KSC75 I can only compare with the PortaPro, which I know is not the same sound sig. even though they use very similar drivers. You def. have two very different sounding headphones to compare. That's probably a good thing. They are so different I'm sure and do different things well.

 

Yes, they do sound quite different, but I really do like the sound out of both very much, and I enjoy switching them up. So, I'm happy to have both sets. And like I said before, as far as portability is concerned and for gym use, it's the the PX100-II's all the way.

 

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I also wanted to say...if you end up getting they DT1350's, they should be pretty mind-blowing considering what you have now. Easily one of very best portables at any price. I wish I owned a pair. I borrowed a pair for a few days earlier this year and am totally smitten.

 

Thanks! I was kind of hoping you would provide your thoughts about the DT1350's.... although you are not making it any easier for me to stop thinking about them LOL!

 

Cheers!

post #128 of 204

The Sony V6 chart you posted seems strange. Look at this one.

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=1513

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post #130 of 204
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Originally Posted by postrock View Post

Neither of us is "wrong" and we're just on opposite sides of the fence. I do hope that readers will do a lot of research before making a buying decision and that you didn't purchase the PX-100 II based solely on my reviews or others (like Katun), who love them.

 

Hope fail, because I just got the PX 100-II based solely on your review.

 

biggrin.gif  LOL, just kidding.  Actually there was a deal on Amazon where they were just $8.49 each so I had to get a few.  Might not be as good a deal as the Eskuches, but then again the Eskuches didn't win the shootout did they?

 

Not to be outdone, Katun went ahead and picked up 4 of them at that price.  Together, we made off like bandits.  The savings were epic.

post #131 of 204
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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

 

Hope fail, because I just got the PX 100-II based solely on your review.

 

biggrin.gif  LOL, just kidding.  Actually there was a deal on Amazon where they were just $8.49 each so I had to get a few.  Might not be as good a deal as the Eskuches, but then again the Eskuches didn't win the shootout did they?

 

Not to be outdone, Katun went ahead and picked up 4 of them at that price.  Together, we made off like bandits.  The savings were epic.

 

Wow - wicked deal! Sure beats the $55 that I paid!

 

Anyway, for $8.49, you will LOVE the PX100-II's! And even if you had paid $55 for them, you would be very happy with them too I bet :)

 

They are rather addictive actually. The more I listen to them, the more I like them. Love the bass - I think they are turning me into a bass-head LOL!

post #132 of 204
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

Wow - wicked deal! Sure beats the $55 that I paid!

 

Anyway, for $8.49, you will LOVE the PX100-II's! And even if you had paid $55 for them, you would be very happy with them too I bet :)

 

They are rather addictive actually. The more I listen to them, the more I like them. Love the bass - I think they are turning me into a bass-head LOL!

 

I was just in the right thread at the right time to have caught it quickly.  smile.gif  I have no idea how I'll feel about them as I am still enamored with my K422s atm.  However, at least now I'll be able to hear the differences between the PX 100-II and the PX 200 I had.

post #133 of 204

@postrock eagerly waiting for your review of HD661 also :)

post #134 of 204
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I've started my listening sessions for the next group of reviews. There may be some last minute additions, but for now the list includes:

 

Portable Mid-sized Supra-aural Headphones

Sennheiser HD229

Sennheiser HD239

Incase Reflex

Ultrasone HFI-15G

Eskuche 33 "i"

 

Portable Circumnaural Headphones

JVC HA-S600

Incase Sonic

Ultrasone HFI-450

German Maestro GMP 160

 

Studio Monitor and DJ Headphones

Superlux HD661

Superlux HD631

JVC HA-M750

KRK KNS-6400

KRK KNS-8400

Ultrasone DJ1

 

It's not as cohesive a group as my compact portable roundup. Lost of different kinds of cans. I will start a completely new thread for these. They range in price from $50-$200 MSRP ($40-$120 street price).

 

I'm still hopeful to get a few others, including the AIAIAI Capital and TMA-1 Studio.

post #135 of 204
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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

 

I was just in the right thread at the right time to have caught it quickly.  smile.gif  I have no idea how I'll feel about them as I am still enamored with my K422s atm.  However, at least now I'll be able to hear the differences between the PX 100-II and the PX 200 I had.

Did you get them yet? Curious to know what you think...

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