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post #16 of 121
6/20/12 at 6:07am
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So he does, my bad.

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post #17 of 121
6/20/12 at 6:05pm

Sorry, I meant the LCD-2.

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post #18 of 121
6/21/12 at 7:40pm
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Two things.  My Senn 800 has shipped and fingers crossed my Q isn't too far behind.

 

That said, I still don't know for sure if it'll be the LCD-2 or 3 that will still be here when it arrives.  The first night's notes still pretty much stand.  Complete crap shoot at this point and honestly I think its going to come down which of the two failing is the lesser evil.

 

I have several albums that send the LCD-2 down into a dark wool-y mess.  And on the other side I have albums that send the LCD-3 into a noisy glare-y mess.  At the price of the LCD-3 it should just outright smash the LCD-2.  At this point the improvements are slight with the exception of tonal balance and staging but I think the added heat in the 1-2K region is giving it a slightly tinny sound.  The LCD-2 fails in omission.  Something in the song will try to accent or cut and simply won't. Strong attack but no bite.

 

In the end neither are hitting that 'one and done' feeling.

 

Goes without saying that the 800 to LCD comparison should be more cut and dry ;)


Edited by Solude - 6/21/12 at 7:43pm
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post #19 of 121
6/21/12 at 9:14pm

Regis, any thoughts of getting the HiFiMan phones into the picture? you might find it interesting to compare those cans too.

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post #20 of 121
6/22/12 at 3:23am
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I owned the HE-5LE for a while.  I've considered the HE-500 but can't find anyone that would say the HiFiMAN competes with the Audeze on technicals.  Always seems to be mentions in a tonal, more neutral sense, not higher resolution or soundstage improvements.

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post #21 of 121
6/22/12 at 3:25am
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That and the pricing structure seems off.  The HE-6 is still tops but the HE-500 seems to top it in everything except build cost, gold costing more than aluminium. 

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post #22 of 121
6/22/12 at 12:08pm

you'll find a bunch of folks in either camp who will find one brand (audeze vs hifiman) preferable to the other. regarding the hifiman orthos, the he500 is easier to run but many, maybe most, who've listened to both prefer a properly amped he6 to the 500. it's quite the system paired with the ef6. i've not yet listened to the 500 thru that amp, although i'm sure it's lovely!


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post #23 of 121
6/23/12 at 11:04am
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I ran the two Audeze cans against each other again this time using music I don't know like the back of my hand and using much shorter playlists.  Impressions haven't really changed but I've come to prefer the higher clarity of the LCD-3.  So the LCD-2 Rev2 will hit the F/S soon.

 

That said, its not "perfect" and certainly not the end of the road can I was hoping for.  So, HiFiMAN fans... do I bring in the HE-6 or HE-500 first?  And yes I realise I still have the Senn HD800 comparison to run :p  I'm using a 4ch b22 with dual o22 so I imagine power won't be an issue with either ;)

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post #24 of 121
6/23/12 at 11:48am
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I ran the two Audeze cans against each other again this time using music I don't know like the back of my hand and using much shorter playlists.  Impressions haven't really changed but I've come to prefer the higher clarity of the LCD-3.  So the LCD-2 Rev2 will hit the F/S soon.

 

That said, its not "perfect" and certainly not the end of the road can I was hoping for.  So, HiFiMAN fans... do I bring in the HE-6 or HE-500 first?  And yes I realise I still have the Senn HD800 comparison to run :p  I'm using a 4ch b22 with dual o22 so I imagine power won't be an issue with either ;)

 

Here are Shahrose's comments on the 3 Ch. B22 with the HE-6s:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/493214/hifiman-he-6-planar-magnetic-headphone/5550#post_8479704

 

He also mentions the sound signature of the B22 (which I agree with...3 channel amp anyway), so if the 4 channel amp is similar, then it may not be the best match for the LCD-2/3s? That said, with your W4S DAC-2 (and digital preamp functionality) + 4 Channel B22, I'd say should be very sufficient for powering the HE-6s (which I found more transparent than the HE-500s when properly driven).

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post #25 of 121
6/23/12 at 1:21pm
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I ran the two Audeze cans against each other again this time using music I don't know like the back of my hand and using much shorter playlists.  Impressions haven't really changed but I've come to prefer the higher clarity of the LCD-3.  So the LCD-2 Rev2 will hit the F/S soon.

 

That said, its not "perfect" and certainly not the end of the road can I was hoping for.  So, HiFiMAN fans... do I bring in the HE-6 or HE-500 first?  And yes I realise I still have the Senn HD800 comparison to run :p  I'm using a 4ch b22 with dual o22 so I imagine power won't be an issue with either ;)

 

 

By the way Solude, what source are you using?  Is it know to be a bright sound or a warm to dark sounds source?  

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post #26 of 121
6/23/12 at 1:23pm
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Here are Shahrose's comments on the 3 Ch. B22 with the HE-6s:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/493214/hifiman-he-6-planar-magnetic-headphone/5550#post_8479704

 

He also mentions the sound signature of the B22 (which I agree with...3 channel amp anyway), so if the 4 channel amp is similar, then it may not be the best match for the LCD-2/3s? That said, with your W4S DAC-2 (and digital preamp functionality) + 4 Channel B22, I'd say should be very sufficient for powering the HE-6s (which I found more transparent than the HE-500s when properly driven).

 

 

I wonder if it's possible for the 4 channel to have a different sound signature than the 3 channel?

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post #27 of 121
6/23/12 at 4:53pm
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I use the W4S DAC-2 which is just heaven with an amp that uses a stepped attenuator.  The 4ch shouldn't change much other than power output but parts choice might.

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post #28 of 121
6/24/12 at 10:43am
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I use the W4S DAC-2 which is just heaven with an amp that uses a stepped attenuator.  The 4ch shouldn't change much other than power output but parts choice might.

I think he was asking what source you're using, rather than your DAC.....i.e, transport, wav files from a computer....etc...etc. wink.gif


Edited by cAsE sEnSiTiVe - 6/24/12 at 10:46am
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post #29 of 121
6/24/12 at 11:01am
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I think he was asking what source you're using, rather than your DAC.....i.e, transport, wav files from a computer....etc...etc. wink.gif

 

 

No Solude was correct.  Source as in DAC.  I think the meaning of source needs a specific deffiniton so we all can be on the same page.

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post #30 of 121
6/24/12 at 11:58am
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Definitions haven't changed.

 

Source=DAC, CD player

Transport=CD player, CD transport, HardDrive, NAS

Material=CD, MP3, Lossless

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