- 709 Posts. Joined 10/2011
- Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
- Select All Posts By This User
Related Forum Threads
- Travelling headphones - ath-m50 or v-moda m80/100 Last post on 10/16/12 at 2:19pm in Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors
- Best Portables for under $300 Senn HD25-1 vs ATH-M50 vs B&W P5 vs DT1350 Last post on 6/7/11 at 4:25am in Headphones (full-size)
- Are the ATH-M50s better than the Beyerdynamic DT-1350s? Last post on 6/4/13 at 8:17pm in Introductions, Help and Recommendations
- Fiio e17 vs Audioengine D1 ( paired with the ATH-M50s or the Beyerdynamic DT-1350 ) Last post on 7/8/14 at 8:47pm in Portable Headphone Amps
- Looking for great closed-back headphones in the $300 range. Last post on 1/17/13 at 12:33pm in Headphones (full-size)
Head-Fi Buying Guide (Over-Ear Headphones)
Last edited: 7/25/14
- Head-Fi Buying Guide (Over-Ear Headphones) 2Last edited: 8/29/14
- Headphone ImpedanceLast edited: 8/18/12
- Buying Guide Headphones By Price RangeLast edited: 10/26/12
- A Hopefully Helpful Headphone Buying Guide For Newbies By BoomanaLast edited: 1/6/13
After owning the PS Audio PWD II for six months, most recently running firmware version 2.4.6 (which is the best I tried), I wanted to move to a dac/preamp solution that would include analog inputs...
Prior to owning the Ref 1, Tralucent Audio was primarily known to me for it Uber cable as well as its silver/gold cable. I own both cables terminated for Fitear customs. I have had the Ref 1...
Introduction – As the current flagship of the young company Brainwavz, the R3 has a quite a lot on its shoulders. Utilizing a relatively new dual-dynamic driver configuration, uncommon with most...
Disclaimer: a. I am in no way affiliated with Fiio b. The X1 audition was a part of a world tour audition. c. There is no monetary or in kind gain due to the audition. With the disclaimer...
I'd say this is a great set of IEMs for its price if you're looking for that consumer v-shaped sound sig. It's not the most balanced sound sig, but for what it is, it sounds pretty good. The mids...
Why ATH-M50?? - Page 2post #16 of 546/15/12 at 12:44pmThe ATH-M50 has many reasons to like it and there are many reasons to suggest it to someone that is just getting into the hobby.1. It is slightly bass heavy north of neutral. This is a good thing for someone entering the hobby because they often are coming from the mindset that more bass is better. God knows that I was concerned about the quality of the bass of a headphone when I first entered the hobby. Not only that, but I would argue that people in general like a sound that is a little bass heavy of neutral (see one of my favorite dynamic driver headphones, the HD650). Not only that, but people almost always want closed-back headphones when they first enter the hobby -- it's not until you start reaching audiophile territory that you really start desiring open-back headphones.2. They measure very well and are comparable to significantly more expensive headphones strictly on measurements. Their waterfall CSD plots are incredibly clean for a closed back headphone in its price bracket. The implication is that the low-level detail retrieval of the ATH-M50 is better than I think a lot of people give it credit. If you're not sure how to read the plot, just do a little bit of research on the waterfall CSD plots and why it is more important than a frequency response graph.3. The reviews on them are generally positive. Are there negative ATH-M50 reviews? Yes, but they're drowned out by the positive ones. Contrast that to headphones that I would consider as having mixed reviews, like the Ultrasone ED8 or the Grado SR series of headphones, which are typically more love it or hate it. The ATH-M50 is a safe suggestion in many cases.4. They really don't require an amplifier. Most people that are entering the hobby want a headphone that is nice sounding to plug into their laptop or DAP. They don't want to carry around an amplifier because it is just extra luggage to carry around on the go. Once again, it's not until you start entering headphone audiophile territory that you start researching portable amps and start wanting one for your system. Most people don't want to carry around an extra thing just to amplify their headphones them they're on the go. You can run the numbers on the impedance and the sensitivity numbers on the ATH-M50 -- typical portable DAPs will be able to properly drive it.Subjectively, and objectively, the ATH-M50 is a solid pick for its price bracket. If you go by the measurements, I'd argue that an equalized ATH-M50 punches significantly out of its price bracket as well. It's, of course, not universally liked, but there is no headphone that is universally liked. It's not the headphone to end all headphones, but it's pretty damn good.
Gear mentioned in this thread:post #17 of 546/15/12 at 1:03pm
I don't want to be bashed by anybody here but they're not as magical as they are. They're over-rated just because of their high value (great sonic performance for something at $150).post #18 of 546/15/12 at 1:08pmThread Starterpost #19 of 546/15/12 at 1:13pmThread Starter
does anyone else suggest the vmoda m80s for strictly dubstep? Also, these headphones arent bad but ive also used the DT 990 250 Ohms for a while and they produce far better sound including bass impact than the ATH M50's do. The ATH M50's have much better mids thoughpost #20 of 546/15/12 at 1:44pmpost #21 of 546/15/12 at 1:59pmQuote:
Ummmm have you listened to these things amped up??? If these things are not rattling you brain then you definitely are not amping them properly because this things can push out some serious bass.
The V-Moda's are a joke, i tried the m-80 and the m-100 at the L.A head meet and they seriously suck. The feel cheep and the way they rest on top of your ears is annoying. If you think the ATH-m50 doesnt have enough bass then the V-Moda's definitely wont impress you. Anyone claiming that any of the V-Moda's are on the same level of the ATH-M50, are either Fanboys of the brand or they have not done an A/B comparison because the V-moda's bass does not hit hard and sounds fake. Their whole sound signature in general is aweful.
I have had the opportunity to listen to dozens upon dozen of high end head phones... audeze lcd2/2, Stax, Grados, Dennon, AKG 701/702's, ultrasones.... many more. I know what crazy good headphones sound like, and the ATH-M50 is the most well balanced headphone i have heard for the price range, especially if you love bass.post #22 of 546/15/12 at 2:12pmQuote:...I know what crazy good headphones sound like, and the ATH-M50 is the most well balanced headphone i have heard for the price range, especially if you love bass.
I read that as: "the ATM-M50 is the most well balanced headphone I have heard for [sic] the price range, especially if you love headphones that emphasize bass."
Of course headphones that emphasize bass (treble or mids) are not well balanced. They may be what you like, but that's something entirely different.post #23 of 546/15/12 at 3:01pm
V-MODA headphones and "feeling cheap" do not go in the same sentence. I understand that's your opinion on the way they sound (and I personally find the M-80s more balanced across the frequency than the M50s - nope, not a fangirl - I own both and like both), but if you've ever held a V-MODA headphone in your hands, I just can't understand how someone can say they feel cheap. It's practically all-metal, built like a tank and there are videos proving how durable the materials are. Beats are cheap and can be snapped in half easily. I imagine one would have a very tough time trying to break/dismantle a V-MODA headphone. Just not gonna happen.post #24 of 546/15/12 at 3:13pmpost #25 of 546/15/12 at 3:48pm
I think Bleether confused V-MODA with Beats by Dre. I don't even understand his comments. Not liking a headphone is one thing, but saying a quality product like a V-MODA headphone "seriously suck[s]" only makes sense to me if it's a severe case of mistaken identity.post #26 of 546/15/12 at 5:06pmQuote:
Nope, Val (CEO owner of V-moda) personally demoed his M-80 the proto type m-100 and his proto type VAMP for me. Good guy, we chatted about his products, and i personally told him i wasn't impressed with the headphones and the VAMP.
I actually purchased a set of the M-80's at radio shack after the meet to test them out a little bit more. I used them for ~40 hours before i returned them for my money back.
About the Beats by Dre... I have tried the solo's. Yes they are horrible head phones, and i couldnt help but think about the similarities between the solos and the M-80's. The Beat Pro's are actually not that bad if they were around $150 bucks. I would never buy a pair because i would be ashamed of wearing over priced head phones.post #27 of 546/15/12 at 5:27pmQuote:
Say what??post #28 of 546/15/12 at 5:42pmpost #29 of 546/15/12 at 7:25pmThread Starter
Okay well it seems like bleether is the only one going against the v modas. i've already returned the m50 and plan to buy the lp2's + amp. i know i should have used an amp with the m50's but i felt that i should just be able to choose a headphone for its plain sound. i dont know the improvements the lp2's will have with an amp but im sure there should be a difference and i will read of it.
- Why ATH-M50??
Gear mentioned in this thread:
- Head-Fi Buying Guide (Over-Ear Headphones) 2
- › The Deals DISCUSSION Thread (READ THE FIRST POST!!!) 41 seconds ago
- › The best headphones that give you a real fun experience when... 1 minute ago
- › 「Official」Asian Anime, Manga, and Music Lounge 1 minute ago
- › Chinese / Asian Brand Info Thread (Headphones, IEMs, Amps, DACs) 1 minute ago
- › Whats a good move up from a asgard 2 1 minute ago
- › The FiiO E10K--all-new DAC and amp stages 2 minutes ago
- › New Ultrasone Edition 5 hinted in the Fujiya Avice Autumn Festival... 2 minutes ago
- › Woo Audio Amp Owner Unite 2 minutes ago
- › Ortofon E-Q5 3 minutes ago
- › Kogan 8GB MP4 - The Player That Came From Nowhere: 3 minutes ago
- › Grace Design m920 by boatheelmusic
- › Tralucent Audio Ref 1 by Kiats
- › Brainwavz R3 Revised Edition by Audiophile1811
- › FiiO X1 Ultraportable Hi-Res DAP by hitchhiker
- › Xiaomi Pistons 2.0 MK301 by Midgetguy
- › HiFiMAN HE-400 by Rajikaru
- › MyST 1866 by cleg
- › The Enigma by Levaix
- › Bowers & Wilkins C5 S2 In-Ear Headphones, Black by twister6
- › MEElectronics M9-BK Hi-Fi Sound-Isolating Earphones (Black) by lin0003
- › The Great FiiO DAP FAQ Wiki
- › Audio Connections between components --...
- › Head-Fi Buying Guide (Introduction)
- › Head-Fi Buying Guide (Over-Ear Headphones)
- › Head-Fi Buying Guide (Over-Ear Headphones) 2
- › Head-Fi Buying Guide (Over-Ear Headphones) 3
- › Head-Fi Buying Guide (In-Ear Headphones)
- › Head-Fi Buying Guide (In-Ear Headphones) 2
- › Head-Fi Buying Guide (In-Ear Headphones) 3
- › Head-Fi Buying Guide (Gaming Headphones)