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Senn HD650 or HD600?

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Which one is better with proper amping?

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http://www.head-fi.org/search.php?search=hd600+vs+hd650

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So would the HD650 be the best headphone i could get for $500 thats a neutral, open sounding headphone?

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To my ears the 600 is more towards the neutal end then the 650. The 650 has a deeper sound-stage (a bit) and a bigger bass presence, but if it is a neutral sound you seek, then the 600 is what you are looking for.

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To my ears the 600 is more towards the neutal end then the 650. The 650 has a deeper sound-stage (a bit) and a bigger bass presence, but if it is a neutral sound you seek, then the 600 is what you are looking for.

Is that the best headphone for 500$ or lower?

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Is that the best headphone for 500$ or lower?

 

Give it a listen and you tell us. popcorn.gif

 

In other words, no one can conclusively say... it's completely subjective.  And don't forget to budget for amplification!

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There's no one objective "best" headphone at any price range. Different headphones have different characteristics, and people have different preferences. What you should do is decide on what you want out of your headphones, and then research as to which pair would fit those needs best. 

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Give it a listen and you tell us. popcorn.gif

 

In other words, no one can conclusively say... it's completely subjective.  And don't forget to budget for amplification!

Im going for amplification after. i hear the HD650 pairs with the E11 not too bad. So then in a year after buying i will get a Schiit Valhalla and a HRT MusicStreamer II+

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Is that the best headphone for 500$ or lower?

I did not say better, just more neutral. Save a couple more bucks and buy the HE-500 if you want detailed and neutral.

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I did not say better, just more neutral. Save a couple more bucks and buy the HE-500 if you want detailed and neutral.

 

All this talk/implication of the HE-500 being a direct upgrade to the HD600... it's admittedly crept to the top of my "must try" list.  Of course, the HD800 is supposed to be an upgrade to the HD600 and, all things considered, I prefer the latter...

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I have owned them both and sold them both. The answer to your question is "it depends". If you prefer a very smoooth sound signature that is on the warm side of neutral, with bass emphasis and laid back ... It has to be the HD650. If you prefer a more neutral 'monitoring' sound signature, then you will likely prefer the HD600.
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I did not say better, just more neutral. Save a couple more bucks and buy the HE-500 if you want detailed and neutral.

 

You'll need more power to drive them as well. Fiio is not enough. 

 

What about the HD598/HD700? 

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All this talk/implication of the HE-500 being a direct upgrade to the HD600... it's admittedly crept to the top of my "must try" list.  Of course, the HD800 is supposed to be an upgrade to the HD600 and, all things considered, I prefer the latter...

I have not owned/heard the HD800,  I do own the HD600/650 and they will always have a place in my small collection, but the HE-500 had me pulling out songs I have not listened to in years.

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The HD 800 and the HD 600 have fairly different sound signatures. I feel that the HD 800 sounds like a cross between the K701 and DT880 with cleaner treble and better bass response. It's definitely technically superior to every other Sennheiser headphone, but it is undoubtedly leaner and brighter than the HD 600 if being run out of the same chain. 

 

On the other hand, my HE-6 sounds like someone took my HD 580, slightly improved the details and cleaned up all of the grain. They carry about the same weight to the music and I can see why one would be considered a direct upgrade to the other. 

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Which one is better with proper amping?

 

Heya,

 

I would put you on a Hifiman HE-400 with very little amping required. I enjoy it more than the HD600/HD650.

 

Very best,

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