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6/13/12 at 11:08pm

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post #32 of 282
6/14/12 at 2:22am
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If they sound anything like the Thunderpants, then I'm not interested.

They definetly..... DO NOT

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post #33 of 282
6/14/12 at 4:38am
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They definetly..... DO NOT

 

Hey Mike, did they sound better then the woodied T50RP that you purchased of jsChristian that you sold while ago?

 

I still think that for those that strive for absolute neutral close to flat line response and sound reproduction, the Paradox, but the LCD2 still holds the crown being superior for that lushy bass response and creamy treble for those that prefer a little hump or "fun" out of their music. Has anyone compared the HE-6 (another well critiqued neutral contender) and the Paradox?

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post #34 of 282
6/14/12 at 4:48am
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Hey Mike, did they sound better then the woodied T50RP that you purchased of jsChristian that you sold while ago?

 

I still think that for those that strive for absolute neutral close to flat line response and sound reproduction, the Paradox, but the LCD2 still holds the crown being superior for that lushy bass response and creamy treble for those that prefer a little hump or "fun" out of their music. Has anyone compared the HE-6 (another well critiqued neutral contender) and the Paradox?

I think the Thunderpants are too boomy and not balanced enough.

 

I also would agree with if you're looking for that "fun" sound the LCD-2 is great. But I think there are comparable cans for cheaper, the HE-400 comes to mind.

But the bass of the LCD's is surely superior. I've been able to compare the HE-6 to the Mad Dogs which are similar enough to the Paradox but still much different.

I'd hold off any impressions because I didn't feel I was adequately driving the HE-6. I will say the HE-6 is a really great headphone as are the majority of cans mentioned so far.

 

Every headphone has their pro's and cons. They all do things better and worse than other headphones. Pick your preference and enjoy your music. 


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post #35 of 282
6/14/12 at 4:53am
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I think the Thunderpants are too boomy and not balanced enough.

 

 

+1, Glad I'm not the only after all the praise.

 

 

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 I will say the HE-6 is a really great headphone as are the majority of cans mentioned so far.

 

Every had headphone has their pro's and cons. They all do things better and worse than other headphones. Pick your preference and enjoy your music. 

 

 

Agreed, the only drawback for the HE-6 is that it needs minimum 2-4WPC amp, most have reported that running off the speaker connectors of an integrated amp powers them superbly. I honestly did not know of the Maddog till posted here. I knew of the Paradox (before it was named Paradox) from the CSD plots thread by purrin and that moment then, purrin reported that there are some heavy mods done to LFF's T50RP that resulted in being heavier in weight, but reported that he liked the sound. 

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post #36 of 282
6/14/12 at 5:14am
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+1, Glad I'm not the only after all the praise.

 

 

 

Agreed, the only drawback for the HE-6 is that it needs minimum 2-4WPC amp, most have reported that running off the speaker connectors of an integrated amp powers them superbly. I honestly did not know of the Maddog till posted here. I knew of the Paradox (before it was named Paradox) from the CSD plots thread by purrin and that moment then, purrin reported that there are some heavy mods done to LFF's T50RP that resulted in being heavier in weight, but reported that he liked the sound. 

Yep, I ran them off the Lyr, didn't feel like I was getting their true potential, so I sold them. I've heard the same, the only amp that I've heard drive them very well is the Dark Star.

I have talked with Purrin about both the Paradox and Mad Dog, he preferred the Paradox, but said they're both very good. I plan to purchase the Paradox after I recover from

a recent LCD-3 purchase. I'll mention both the Paradox and Mad Dog have very good looking graphs. But I'm not one to look too much into charts. I let my ears be the judge.

 

The Fostex T50RP mod is littered with seemingly good resulting mods. In regards to the weight they're fine, I would recommend doing a headband mod as I found it to cause irritation

comfort wise.


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6/14/12 at 5:25am
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Yep, I ran them off the Lyr, didn't feel like I was getting their true potential, so I sold them. I've heard the same, the only amp that I've hear drive them very well is the Dark Star.

 

But I'm not one to look too much into charts. I let my ears be the judge.

 

The Fostex T50RP mod is littered with seemingly good resulting mods. In regards to the weight they're fine, I would recommend doing a headband mod as I found it to cause irritation

comfort wise.

imo the Lyr is another highly praised amp just like the Thunderpants if you know what I mean. I recall seeing Jude recommend the Dark Star for the HE-6 if you want to drive them to its potential to shine.

 

x2 on the second note. Charts to me in most cases mean nothing, my ears interpret things otherwise. I let measurements and charts begin off with the preference, I let my ears end with the impressions.

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post #38 of 282
6/14/12 at 5:46am
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imo the Lyr is another highly praised amp just like the Thunderpants if you know what I mean. I recall seeing Jude recommend the Dark Star for the HE-6 if you want to drive them to its potential to shine.

 

x2 on the second note. Charts to me in most cases mean nothing, my ears interpret things otherwise. I let measurements and charts begin off with the preference, I let my ears end with the impressions.

I understand what you mean. I've found my Lyr to be great for me with some tube rolling. I actually haven't heard a better setup than the Dark Star and HE-6.

But that's a steep price to pay to use just with the HE-6. The Dark Star wasn't as moving with other cans like the Audeze lineup. 

 

Very nicely said, I let the charts setoff my placebos. tongue.gif

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post #39 of 282
6/14/12 at 7:46am

Hw much would it cost to make a Paradox? Seems interesting

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post #40 of 282
6/14/12 at 8:46am
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Hw much would it cost to make a Paradox? Seems interesting

You can't make a Paradox, it's LFF's technique.

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post #41 of 282
6/14/12 at 9:25am

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post #42 of 282
6/14/12 at 3:45pm

so where do ppl buy them?

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6/14/12 at 3:47pm
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so where do ppl buy them?

From LFF - send him a pm.

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6/14/12 at 3:48pm
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so where do ppl buy them?

By contacting LFF, I have his email but I really don't know if he'd appreciate me giving it out like that. (Too late of a reply)


Edited by paradoxper - 6/14/12 at 3:49pm
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post #45 of 282
6/14/12 at 4:03pm

The latest BMF V8 modification competes directly with my HE-500.  I worked with BMF before he posted them on the Wiki, tuning them to suit my specific pair.  In some cases, I prefer the HE-500, in other cases I prefer the BMF V8 T50RP.  I view them as equal contenders. 

 

If you're going to DIY (and save yourself a lot of money), you do need to tune them.  Taking measurements at home helps, but isn't specifically required.  You can use very slow sine sweeps to detect where the imbalances and emphasis's lie.

 

It takes a careful hand and patient tuning, but it will pay off in the long run.

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