Need HeadFi collective advice! Bad Trader? - Page 3  

What I learned from this thread:

1) I can intercept packages now from USPS. Very useful info...thanks

2) In trades with those with less feedback than I have, request the earphones first before sending mine off. 

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Originally Posted by atty101 

I completely agree with the OP on this one. You can't initiate a trade and then decide to ignore PMs for FOUR days. That's not fair. Some of you have this "all's well that ends well" mentality but because of an inconsiderate trader the OP is out cash.

 

Maybe there is no outlined "trading etiquette" but common sense and common courtesy would suggest that good communication is a MUST when trading gear sight unseen.

If I was a really annoying individual, I'd mention how the other guy is out a pair of X10 =) but elvergun wasn't trying to scam anyone.

By the way elvergun did you explain to him what happened with the package? Because he now has a tracking number that doesn't work, and that is a lot more alarming - no response can just mean someone's busy, but a non-working tracking number immediately suggest a scam.

Just looking at this from a purely emotionless practical viewpoint ......

 - You both agreed on the trade

 - Although you suggested the tracking, it doesn't actually say anywhere he specifically agreed with it, you assumed it though

 - Yes he did not carry through with communication - however this did not negate the actual terms you agreed

 - He shipped his headphones, however you did not (technically) complete shipment on yours

While I can sympathise with where you are at the moment, and can understand your actions to a certain point - the other trader has actually fulfilled all parts of the transaction that you mutually agreed.  You have not.

As hard as it may seem - the only course of action now is for you to immediately ship the M50s to him - and probably apologise for the delay.

Also in future - at least you will be more aware and get mutual full agreement on any terms (in writing).  Then and only then can you say that one of you has breached trust/agreement.  Unfortunately OP the extra costs are yours to bear.  If it's any consolation - I would be probably have done the same thing as you, and even if you are on good moral ground - thechnically the only one in breach of your original agreement ..... is you.

I feel for you. 

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Originally Posted by LizardKing1 

 

If I was a really annoying individual, I'd mention how the other guy is out a pair of X10 =) 

So glad you're above that sort of thing!

It is easy to understand how you must have felt when he did not communicate with you for a few days, but the bottom line is that he fulfilled his end of the agreement while you did not. 

I very likely may have done the same thing you did, but definitely pay for the shipping back along with an apology and all will be fine. 

I'm trying to avoid exaggerations in the hopes of being helpful; I think you should also avoid exaggerations in the hopes of finding help. It's nothing personal.

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Originally Posted by elvergun 


Yeah, I was so rude. Lol.

It's very clear here that you're taking responses that support you with greater weight than responses that don't support you. What do you want us to say? That you're a good guy, and that you make good life choices, and your kids will grow up, learn to read, and get great jobs? Maybe he wasn't the greatest trader, but neither are you -- so why is this thread even open? If I were you, I'd pay for his shipping cost too. Sitting from his position, I'm out shipping costs and a week's worth of time because some bumpkin couldn't wait four days. Four days isn't even enough time for you to file a credit card claim.