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Can bass and a large soundstage coexist?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

I have been tirelessly searching for head phones that could fulfill my two desires concrete earthquake bass and a wide open soundstage to have an enveloping, 3d like feel.

 

But, it seems as if i can have either one or the other?  Perhaps there is a way to compromise some and fulfill both desires?  An amp purchase is definitely on the agenda as well and my purchasing price is about 250-300 but I am flexible to go higher if need be.(thanks head-fi for killing my wallet and alienating my wife from my side to due to the talk of audiophilia)

 

Currently, I do have some headphones in consideration and they are-

 

AKG K550

Beyerdynamics DT770 pro 80 ohm

Denon D2000

Hifiman HE-300

Sennheiser HD 600&650

M-Audio Q40

Smeggy Thunderpants 

Darth Beyers

V-Moda Crossfade LP2 and M-100

Sony MDR-MA300

 

I hope that I didnt post the thread in the wrong place so please forgive me and the moderators can move the thread if it pleases them to do so.

 

Thanks Head-Fi you all your help.

post #2 of 16
I'd try this in the headphones section, but very vaguely I would say try the D2000s while you still can. A lot of the cans you have listed there are unlikely to be bassy at all as well (like MA300).
post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by alexandran88 View Post
I have been tirelessly searching for head phones that could fulfill my two desires concrete earthquake bass and a wide open soundstage to have an enveloping, 3d like feel.

But, it seems as if i can have either one or the other?  Perhaps there is a way to compromise some and fulfill both desires?  An amp purchase is definitely on the agenda as well and my purchasing price is about 250-300 but I am flexible to go higher if need be.(thanks head-fi for killing my wallet and alienating my wife from my side to due to the talk of audiophilia)

Currently, I do have some headphones in consideration and they are-

AKG K550

Beyerdynamics DT770 pro 80 ohm

Denon D2000

Hifiman HE-300

Sennheiser HD 600&650

M-Audio Q40

Smeggy Thunderpants 

Darth Beyers

V-Moda Crossfade LP2 and M-100

Sony MDR-MA300

I hope that I didnt post the thread in the wrong place so please forgive me and the moderators can move the thread if it pleases them to do so.

Beyerdynamic DT990 is the closest headphone I can think of to what you want.

post #4 of 16

sennheiser ie8 has both, but it's in earevil_smiley.gif

post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys for your help.  About those Sennheieser IE8's, is the low end very pronounced or is it a more textured kind of bass?

 

And about the DT990, I believe it is an open can, so can the bass be pronounced and deep along with its sub bass while having that wide open soundstage?

 

and is the Darth Beyer not a modded DT770/990 which improves upon the other's strengths?

post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 

or maybe perhaps a wonderful soundstage and decent bass, not boom, can be achieved?

post #7 of 16
You can have bassy and open cans, the DT990 is an example (that I have not heard), the Ultrasone HFI-2400 and PRO2900 are additional examples (which I have heard; I suggest the 2900 if you can afford it). The Darths are a Headphile creation - they're based on the DT770. I don't think they're called Darth Beyer anymore either - it's something like "TRACKER 5" now. Never tried them - they can get really (majorly) expensive.

Open doesn't have to mean thin, and closed doesn't have to mean bassy. redface.gif
post #8 of 16

Yep , as with the as mentioned, dt-990s own this potential , dependent upon a higher-end DAC , presupposed .  IMO&E ...

post #9 of 16

Further -

 

The Beyers greatly extended HF is why they require a better than average DAC (although DACs generally have improved greatly for ya buck, most recently) which each will also of course, affect the recordings soundstage as well as depth and how very articulate the low Freq present .

post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 

so a Fiio e11/17 could possibly do the job while i figure out a better source than my HTC Thunderbolt?

post #11 of 16

Sorry, but I will not do recommendations specificly for you, as there are just to many varriables for me to say, "I Know" what you should choose and what YOU will hear speciffically vs. ??? (component chain) .

 

Hope is that I added to your understanding in general, that it is the "System" collectively which will or will not achieve these worthy goals you state and on a tight budjet too .

 

- Best regards

post #12 of 16

The headphones with the best bass I have ever heard, both in quality AND quantity (enough to blow your brains out of your skull if you're not careful) is the TakeT H2+ which is most certainly an open headphone. In fact the earcups don't even press again your head! Its soundstage is exceptional, but more importantly it has a sense of presence few headphones rival. Another legendary "bass king" is the Grado PS-1, which is also open. The Grado PS1000 has a great soundstage and sense of presence and is quite bassy as well, contrary to the "Grados have no bass" meme.


Edited by MuppetFace - 6/13/12 at 11:30pm
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 

oh boy i never though that the Grados could have such a sound...

 

Thanks to everyone who gave their honest advice on this thread

post #14 of 16

Which model Grado's ?

 

The RS-2's I owned posessed neither Bass nor Soundstaging in remarkable quantities in fact Grado's were known to have a unique coherent presentation witout seperation between instruments (air), which to my ear is necessary for remarkable or great soundstaging .

 

 

Haha, Classic  ;') 

 

So long as the OP is happy, though in conclusion I would like to know the model bought and so would any reader if the thread is to be of any use as a worth while read .


Edited by Hi-Finthen - 6/18/12 at 4:13pm
post #15 of 16

I think by mentioning Grados he was referring to my post directly above when I mention the PS series by Grado (PS-1, PS1000, and PS500).

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