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Just to clarify any doubts on the place of manufacture.. Just got my extended warranty, and Dennis @Burson replied "... yes our product is made locally" so it is made in Australia.. And that makes me feel a little warm inside!!
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Just to clarify any doubts on the place of manufacture.. Just got my extended warranty, and Dennis @Burson replied "... yes our product is made locally" so it is made in Australia.. And that makes me feel a little warm inside!!
post #919 of 1167
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post


Just the person to answer my question 😄. What DAC do you think pairs very well with the Soloist? I have the amp and am pairing it with the Bifrost.
Thanks

 

Hi kothganesh, 

 

I've only ever paired it with two DACs. The Bifrost - like what you have now - and the NAD M51.

 

The Bifrost>Soloist is no slouch but right now, even this early on, I much prefer the NAD. The Soloist I believe with let you experience the source more than other amps. I paired the Lyr, the Pan Am and the Soloist to both Bifrost and M51, and on the Lyr and Pan Am, their colorations showed more than the source whilst on the soloist, you can easily detect the differences between DACs. It really makes it easier as it has three inputs, and I can just switch between either dac really quickly. 

 

The Bifrost can't match the NAD in soundstage, detail retrieval. Bass is present and of high quality on both, but the Bifrost gives the feeling of more bass due to the fact that the soundstage is more constricted. But in reality the NAD probably edges the Bifrost slightly. 

 

Bifrost for fast tracks that benefit from a more closed soundstage. General pop, a bit of rock. NAD for big orchestral pieces, jazz, and music that generally benefit from more detail and atmosphere. 

 

All above tests have been done with LCD 2.2.

 

regards, 

 

Glenn

post #920 of 1167
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Originally Posted by NZheadcase View Post

 

Hi kothganesh, 

 

I've only ever paired it with two DACs. The Bifrost - like what you have now - and the NAD M51.

 

The Bifrost>Soloist is no slouch but right now, even this early on, I much prefer the NAD. The Soloist I believe with let you experience the source more than other amps. I paired the Lyr, the Pan Am and the Soloist to both Bifrost and M51, and on the Lyr and Pan Am, their colorations showed more than the source whilst on the soloist, you can easily detect the differences between DACs. It really makes it easier as it has three inputs, and I can just switch between either dac really quickly. 

 

The Bifrost can't match the NAD in soundstage, detail retrieval. Bass is present and of high quality on both, but the Bifrost gives the feeling of more bass due to the fact that the soundstage is more constricted. But in reality the NAD probably edges the Bifrost slightly. 

 

Bifrost for fast tracks that benefit from a more closed soundstage. General pop, a bit of rock. NAD for big orchestral pieces, jazz, and music that generally benefit from more detail and atmosphere. 

 

All above tests have been done with LCD 2.2.

 

regards, 

 

Glenn

Glenn,

 

that's an awesome summary. I have the LCD 2.2 as well. My music choices are rock first and a bit of pop. I am only tipping my toe in terms of orchestral music and jazz. My favorites include the Beatles, Clapton, The Who, Pink Floyd and the like. Looks like the Bifrost will do it for me. Except that these DACs do reveal the quality of recording very vividly and boy, some of the music is kind of tough to hear, the band notwithstanding.

 

Thanks mate

 

Koth

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Yeah the Soloist is served well by the Bifrost.

 

I agree, better gear does shatter illusions on what music is good and what is not. Loved U2 before but heard over current gear, only about a dozen song recordings really cut the mustard now :( . Songs are still good, but once you've heard what good recordings can offer, it's hard to come back to sub par production except for when the music has sentimental value.

 

But hey, you live, you learn.  

 

BTW, Bifrost>Lyr or Bifrost> Soloist, try and find the album Santana: Guitar Heaven. very enjoyable. :) Based on what you listed above, yuo might like it. 

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Originally Posted by NZheadcase View Post

Yeah the Soloist is served well by the Bifrost.

 

I agree, better gear does shatter illusions on what music is good and what is not. Loved U2 before but heard over current gear, only about a dozen song recordings really cut the mustard now :( . Songs are still good, but once you've heard what good recordings can offer, it's hard to come back to sub par production except for when the music has sentimental value.

 

But hey, you live, you learn.  

 

BTW, Bifrost>Lyr or Bifrost> Soloist, try and find the album Santana: Guitar Heaven. very enjoyable. :) Based on what you listed above, yuo might like it. 

Mate,

 

you saved me a bit of money here. I was planning to buy the Burson HA160-D (is that the DAC only?) to pair with the Soloist but I will desist (for now). And I also think you are psychic since my other amp is the Lyr.biggrin.gif And Santana is a favorite of mine so off I go to get that CD.

 

Thanks

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Have not heard the Burson DAC I'm afraid. Not a lot of ways for me to audition gear where I am. :( 

 

If you are intent on getting a DAC in the future, why not future proof the purchase? Something with balanced output maybe (in case you get the urge to get a balanced amp). Also, DSD seems to be the "in" thing these days but personally not on my radar. I'm keeping my Bifrost definitely for the forseable future. It's a good bit of kit. 

 

Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by NZheadcase View Post

Have not heard the Burson DAC I'm afraid. Not a lot of ways for me to audition gear where I am. :( 

 

If you are intent on getting a DAC in the future, why not future proof the purchase? Something with balanced output maybe (in case you get the urge to get a balanced amp). Also, DSD seems to be the "in" thing these days but personally not on my radar. I'm keeping my Bifrost definitely for the forseable future. It's a good bit of kit. 

 

Enjoy!

Pleasure chatting. One last question, what is DSD ?

post #925 of 1167
Its a hi-res audio format used in sacd's i believe.
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Little late to the conversation but anyone looking for an amp/dac pair in the $1500 range should jump straight to the Conductor.  If the Soloist is the amp you want, the Conductor simply has no competition in that price range.  The previous HA line doesn't hold a candle to the new line.  And that's from someone who had the HA-160D for a good long time.

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Little late to the conversation but anyone looking for an amp/dac pair in the $1500 range should jump straight to the Conductor.  If the Soloist is the amp you want, the Conductor simply has no competition in that price range.  The previous HA line doesn't hold a candle to the new line.  And that's from someone who had the HA-160D for a good long time.

Yeah, It's too bad I couldn't afford the conductor all at once.  I'm hoping maybe later on, Burson will release another standalone DAC based on the Conductor's DAC section.  

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Yeah, It's too bad I couldn't afford the conductor all at once.  I'm hoping maybe later on, Burson will release another standalone DAC based on the Conductor's DAC section.  

 

I emailed Burson about this on 4/29, Inquiring if they would be releasing a new standalone DAC soon.  Their response was it would be about 3-4 months out from completion and would be fully balanced.  Then they also recommended I get a Conductor.

 

Seeing as I wasn't planning on going balanced and was happy with the old DA160, I bought the Soloist.

 

EDIT:  They did not quote me a price, but if it's new and fully balanced I am kind of assuming its more than I was looking to spend.

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Originally Posted by barid View Post

 

I emailed Burson about this on 4/29, Inquiring if they would be releasing a new standalone DAC soon.  Their response was it would be about 3-4 months out from completion and would be fully balanced.  Then they also recommended I get a Conductor.

 

Seeing as I wasn't planning on going balanced and was happy with the old DA160, I bought the Soloist.

 

EDIT:  They did not quote me a price, but if it's new and fully balanced I am kind of assuming its more than I was looking to spend.

Awesome news.  3-4 months isn't too bad.  Let's hope they don't increase the price on it too much.  I've noticed the DA-160 price falling lately.  Amazon has them for $700 right now.  The whole balanced thing does concern me that they will either have to significantly increase the price or cut costs elsewhere (i.e. less stringent parts matching).  I'm actually a fan of the high value in Burson's single ended approach.  Though, I know many automatically write off single ended DACs over $1000 so I know it's strictly a business move for them.  

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Originally Posted by JWahl View Post

Awesome news.  3-4 months isn't too bad.  Let's hope they don't increase the price on it too much.  I've noticed the DA-160 price falling lately.  Amazon has them for $700 right now.  The whole balanced thing does concern me that they will either have to significantly increase the price or cut costs elsewhere (i.e. less stringent parts matching).  I'm actually a fan of the high value in Burson's single ended approach.  Though, I know many automatically write off single ended DACs over $1000 so I know it's strictly a business move for them.  


Yeah I decided to go with the DA160 because I found a deal on one for $500 on the FS forum and was happy with how my 160D had sounded before I sold it.

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