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post #826 of 1167
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

FYI Burson's 'new understanding' was finding the Dynalo page on HeadWize so it still surprises me that people dismiss the Soloist out of hand and then claim love for the Dynalo ;)

 

But does go to show the effect of part selection and power supply design.

May I guess that the difference would be not that great if any, or accordingly to Asr even more like a downgrade.

post #827 of 1167

I agree.  Side by side the GS-X mk2 and Soloist are quite similar in most areas.  The exception being tonal balance and dynamic range.  Dynamic range is an auto win, but some may prefer the drier thinner Soloist to the liquid warmth of the GS-X mk2.  I'm a self admitted bass head so GS-X mk2 for me :D

 

I just think too many people think of the HA-160 when they think Burson and think the Soloist is somehow an extension of that design and not a new design.  That or like the GS-1 was uninspiring on lesser sources they listen to one at a meet on a source other than their own and what they really don't like is the source but blame the amp for being honest.

post #828 of 1167
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Originally Posted by Lito1 View Post

I listened to the Soloist yesterday with a LCD3 and LCD2. I was very unimpressed. Sound was distant and lifeless. With LCD3 it was really really "bad". Poor performance.

Better with LCD2 but nothing special considering the price tag. I enjoyed LCD2 directly out the dx100 better than with the Soloist.

 

I never felt the Soloist lacking in any way even with the Audez'e. I'm not sure what kind of gear you owned before it, and whats the kind of sound you like. 

 

Do spend more time with it next time, and your ears will start appreciating it. smile.gif

post #829 of 1167

Don't see too many bad reviews on the Bursons. Those GS-X Amps seem to have some pretty dedicated owners though. I'd love to try one out, but they have no return policy... 

post #830 of 1167
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Originally Posted by fabio-fi View Post

 

I never felt the Soloist lacking in any way even with the Audez'e. I'm not sure what kind of gear you owned before it, and whats the kind of sound you like. 

 

Do spend more time with it next time, and your ears will start appreciating it. smile.gif

I believe you hit the point. The problem is not the Soloist, the problem (my problem) is the Audez'e. Just not the sound I like.

I tried the Soloist with my HD800 and SigPro and it was heavenly good. Significant step-up from my little Lake People G103s.


Edited by Lito1 - 3/28/13 at 1:26am
post #831 of 1167

After years of being an Audeze fan I have to agree.  On a good rig the HD800 is just the better product by miles.  My Soloist is gone now but it's still my number two behind the GS-X mk2 but ahead of the B22, GS-1 and others.  

post #832 of 1167
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

After years of being an Audeze fan I have to agree.  On a good rig the HD800 is just the better product by miles.  My Soloist is gone now but it's still my number two behind the GS-X mk2 but ahead of the B22, GS-1 and others.  

 

You made me curious about the GS-X now. What happened with your soloist? seems like you are simplifying your headphone rig. 

post #833 of 1167

Soloist is India bound :D

 

Rig is what it always has been.  1 headphone, 1 amp, 1 source.  Everything else gets sold.  Difference this time out is the B22 I designed wasn't going to sell for even the parts cost so I'm keeping it for my kid's PC rig down the road.

 

While the Soloist was great with the LCD-3 and HD800, the B22 really didn't do it for the Senn HD800.

post #834 of 1167
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Soloist is India bound :D

 

Rig is what it always has been.  1 headphone, 1 amp, 1 source.  Everything else gets sold.  Difference this time out is the B22 I designed wasn't going to sell for even the parts cost so I'm keeping it for my kid's PC rig down the road.

 

While the Soloist was great with the LCD-3 and HD800, the B22 really didn't do it for the Senn HD800.

 

One of these days, I will get the discipline to own one of each component.  As it is, I need to have a hi-end audio yard sale.  All this talk about the HD800's makes me want to experience a pair.  Maybe that will motivate me to sell something!   


Edited by Pasquale - 4/6/13 at 5:24am
post #835 of 1167
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Difference this time out is the B22 I designed wasn't going to sell for even the parts cost so I'm keeping it for my kid's PC rig down the road.

 

Well, your kid will be trained to appreciate good sound after all. 

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If I turn off the Soloist and not use it for a couple of days the input and gain switch loose memory and have to be programmed to the input and gain position it defaults to input 3 and high gain.

Please provide feedback as I don't know if this is normal.

post #837 of 1167
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Originally Posted by hifimiami View Post

If I turn off the Soloist and not use it for a couple of days the input and gain switch loose memory and have to be programmed to the input and gain position it defaults to input 3 and high gain.

Please provide feedback as I don't know if this is normal.

 

Hello,

 

I sincerely don't know the reason why it does this but mine doesn't react like this, even after more than 2 days off.  Do you unplug it ?  (I never unplug mine.)

 

And don't hesitate to ask Burson as well :)

post #838 of 1167
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Originally Posted by hifimiami View Post

If I turn off the Soloist and not use it for a couple of days the input and gain switch loose memory and have to be programmed to the input and gain position it defaults to input 3 and high gain.

Please provide feedback as I don't know if this is normal.

 

The recommendation from Burson is to restrain from unplugging the unit or even turning the unit off.  This may not be the best for your utility bill - depending on the draw at idle.  The amp goes through a mini burn-in when re-juiced after being turned off or unplugged for even short periods of time.  This is strange for a SS amp.  But, I can attest to the sonic impact.  I have not noticed the change in the settings (but I am not surprised) as I do not unplug or turn the unit off.  

 

Cheers,   

post #839 of 1167
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Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post

 

The recommendation from Burson is to restrain from unplugging the unit or even turning the unit off.  This may not be the best for your utility bill - depending on the draw at idle.  The amp goes through a mini burn-in when re-juiced after being turned off or unplugged for even short periods of time.  This is strange for a SS amp.  But, I can attest to the sonic impact.  I have not noticed the change in the settings (but I am not surprised) as I do not unplug or turn the unit off.  

 

Cheers,   

They "recommend" it as far as the sound quality is concerned, I remember, in their manual.  But that shouldn't do any damage to anything to turn it off.

 

And since they also recommend (for reliability of the headphone transducers I guess and maybe for other reasons as well) to turn the source on first, THEN the amp, does it mean that you leave your source always on ?

 

I'm not criticizing, I am just curious about how you proceed :)

post #840 of 1167
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Originally Posted by CoolBurn View Post

They "recommend" it as far as the sound quality is concerned, I remember, in their manual.  But that shouldn't do any damage to anything to turn it off.

 

And since they also recommend (for reliability of the headphone transducers I guess and maybe for other reasons as well) to turn the source on first, THEN the amp, does it mean that you leave your source always on ?

 

I'm not criticizing, I am just curious about how you proceed :)

I certainly think there is no damage done by turning the amp on and off.  Initially, I tried turning the amp on and off, but always leaving it plugged.  But, I noticed that the amp took some time once the power is switched on again to reach its "stride" - as long as an hour in some cases it seemed.  Given that I am sometimes only sitting down to listen to a song or two, that kind of warm-up is annoying.  So, I decided to just leave the amp on.  I suppose one could turn the amp off and warm it up each day - like first thing in the morning.  I have owned a number of SS amps for full-scale systems.  Many of them also recommended leaving the amp in the on position.  The unit usually had its own idle mode.  That said, I don't know of another SS amp where the sound signature is so impacted by letting the amp go cold like the Soloist.

 

I think making sure the headphone is unplugged when the unit is switched on is a good precaution for those who do decide to turn the unit on and off.  As a point of comparison, my Benchmark DAC1 has no on-off switch.  I know its designed to idle itself.  The company is explicit about leaving it on.  


Edited by Pasquale - 4/9/13 at 4:28am
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