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post #9478525  the pic is here.

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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

post #9478525  the pic is here.


There are not my pics though....

 

And mines are the new LCD pads. Also, the K550 on this picture have been bent a little bit (which I don't suggest)

post #903 of 1679
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Originally Posted by inasafeplace View Post
 


The problem is it's just a problem with the K550... I have other AKG headphones and don't have this problem....

 

The problem with the K550 is the fit. The pads surely have something to do with it too...

 

My K702, K240s, K271 MKII, K450 don't have this problem at all...

Did i mention "fit"?

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How would you guys compare the 550s to the Sony V6s?  Also any idea of how good a match the 550s would be on an Aune T1 amp?


Edited by GirgleMirt - 10/19/13 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by GirgleMirt View Post

How would you guys compare the 550s to the Sony V6s?  Also any idea of how good a match the 550s would be on an Aune T1 amp?

Good step up from the V6s in resolution and overall sound quality. Bigger soundstage.

Low output impedance of the Aune T1 is 10 ohm. Better to have an amp that has a low output impedance of 1/8 the nominal impedance of the headphones. So for the K550 impedance of 32 ohm, something with 4 ohm or less would be optimal. But still would work.
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Good step up from the V6s in resolution and overall sound quality. Bigger soundstage.

Low output impedance of the Aune T1 is 10 ohm. Better to have an amp that has a low output impedance of 1/8 the nominal impedance of the headphones. So for the K550 impedance of 32 ohm, something with 4 ohm or less would be optimal. But still would work.

Hmmm....  Would we be talking significant impact of T1?  I mean, are we talking significant difference or barely noticeable vs a headphone amp who'd be perfectly matched?  V6s are about 64 ohms...  Hmmm....

 

Also any comparison on leakage/isolation vs the V6?  The V6s do a pretty good job for isolation, and that's mainly why the 550s would be considered (being that they're closed and at 180$ now on special), not a significantly noisy environment but hopefully when you play them loud, people around you can't hear it...

 

I've also seen some complaints of them being a bit harsh / treble emphasized / sibilant, which was also said by some for the V6.  Would the 550s be worse or better in this respect?  It's a bit hard to say looking at graphs, but it seems that they'd be worse than the V6, almost as bad/similar to the Beyer 990s...  Which might very well be a bit of an issue for me...  Or, to state in another fashion, I think the V6's high end is very acceptable, but the 990s a quite a bit extreme for me...

 

 

Yeah it actually looks like the 550s have a similar sound signature to the 990s...???


Edited by GirgleMirt - 10/19/13 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by GirgleMirt View Post

Hmmm....  Would we be talking significant impact of T1?  I mean, are we talking significant difference or barely noticeable vs a headphone amp who'd be perfectly matched?  V6s are about 64 ohms...  Hmmm....

It doesn't so much impact the T1 as the headphones will have a slightly different frequency response from their optimal signature when using a headphone amp with lower impedance output. If you already own the T1, I wouldn't worry about it. Give the K550s a try and see if you like their sound. If you don't already have the T1, know that generally hybrid solid state/tube amps (like the Little Dot I+) are recommended for lower impedance headphones.
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Originally Posted by GirgleMirt View Post

Yeah it actually looks like the 550s have a similar sound signature to the 990s...???

Those frequency response plots look quite different to me.
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Thx!  Yeah already have a T1.   For their FR being similar to 990, indeed, not exactly the same, the 550 does have a more neutral bass and it seems that extend lower, but they do seem to have similarly recessed mids and a spiky treble...  That's what's worrying me.  The V6 in comparison seems quite a bit more neutral, and its treble is by far less sticking out.  I mean, both 990 and 550 seem to have about 15dB difference between 3kHz and 10kHz...  That's huge!

 

Compared to the Q701, again, seems to be more recessed mids, a more bassy sound, with a spiky treble, which again, I don't know... Guess could be problematic :(  One one hand, it's not that much worse than the Q701, but it's that much closer (even maybe a tad bit worse for mids) to the 990s... 

 

If I just had to guess/judge by graphs, I'd have to say that the 550s maybe aren't good headphones for me.  I don't know it's hard to tell, maybe they'd be fine...   :P


Edited by GirgleMirt - 10/20/13 at 6:30am
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Been reading this thread, watched an innerearfidelity (?) on youtube, seems pretty favorable, 1 day left to order for the 180 price, think I'll go for it  :)  From what I've read, isolation is supposed to be really good, and there wasn't much complaints about the treble more about balanced sound description so should be good!

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I just want to reply to all the comments relating to "piercing highs"

The only reason I enjoy AKG (Q701, K701, K550, K551) I owned them all, is that they have that boosted treble/presence region. I love that, without it, I don't think I'd even bother with AKG.
It just makes the sound so exciting and beautiful for me.

So for all those that hate this feature and thinks the company should "do something about it", some people like myself actually enjoy this, so its not a "problem" in the headphone.
It's just "not for you"

Couldn't agree more. Treble is what makes the song more lively. I dislike headphones with poor treble that not only sound lifeless, but more the fatigue it becomes.
That's my personal opinion. Slightly boosted treble just seems neutral overall.
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Hi,

 

I am new to this forum.

I would like to know if anybody has or has had both the AKG K550 and the Audio Technica ATH-AD700. I have the AD700 at the moment and I don't think I will be upgrading them for quite some time yet but I would like to know what they are like compared with each other. Because the AD700 are open back, that will be why their soundstage is so good for the money. As people said, they lack a lot of bass which is why I have been using the Fiio E11 and a Fiio DAC which does a great job of reducing the harshness of the treble a little and boosting the bass by quite a big scale. I would really miss the treble if it was not very bright like the AD700 but as many people have said, the K550 has a exellent soundstage as well as very bright treble. Because these are closed back, I would assume that the bass would be a big improvement form the ad700 even though lots of people have said that they still don't have a huge amount of bass. Also I am sometimes finding my AD700s hard to use in different places because of their sound leakage and whenever I am in a noisy place I have to turn my music right up! But that is what open back headphones are supposed to be like so i can't complain. It sounds like the K550 blocks the sound leakage and has very good isolation indeed from what I have read. I am just hoping that the detail and soundstage will be similar or better.

 

I hope this post is is the correct place.

 

 

Thanks

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Originally Posted by xinghui0711 View Post


Couldn't agree more. Treble is what makes the song more lively. I dislike headphones with poor treble that not only sound lifeless, but more the fatigue it becomes.
That's my personal opinion. Slightly boosted treble just seems neutral overall.


To me it is not only more fatiguing but it also hurts. I don't like when it hurts to listen to music. Other AKG headphones I have also have a slight emphasize on treble but it is nowhere as piercing and damaging as the K550. The sound on the K550 is nowhere as smoothed and laid back as the K702.

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Originally Posted by inasafeplace View Post


To me it is not only more fatiguing but it also hurts. I don't like when it hurts to listen to music. Other AKG headphones I have also have a slight emphasize on treble but it is nowhere as piercing and damaging as the K550. The sound on the K550 is nowhere as smoothed and laid back as the K702.

As gilsont already pointed out, sounds like these headphones are "not for you." The treble isn't "piercing and damaging" to me, nor to many others that like these headphones. Should go without saying that sometimes a pair of headphones it not a good choice for someone because we each react differently to the particular frequency response that a headphone has. So in other words, it's you AND the headphones that are the problem here, not the headphones alone. Seems like it might be time for you to sell them and move on.
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Also the fit and difference of head/ear sizes matters besides sound signature. If you're an audeze's headphones lover, that's reasonable to hear problem of K550's treble spike.
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Originally Posted by TheGiantHogweed View Post

Hi,

I am new to this forum.
I would like to know if anybody has or has had both the AKG K550 and the Audio Technica ATH-AD700. I have the AD700 at the moment and I don't think I will be upgrading them for quite some time yet but I would like to know what they are like compared with each other. Because the AD700 are open back, that will be why their soundstage is so good for the money. As people said, they lack a lot of bass which is why I have been using the Fiio E11 and a Fiio DAC which does a great job of reducing the harshness of the treble a little and boosting the bass by quite a big scale. I would really miss the treble if it was not very bright like the AD700 but as many people have said, the K550 has a exellent soundstage as well as very bright treble. Because these are closed back, I would assume that the bass would be a big improvement form the ad700 even though lots of people have said that they still don't have a huge amount of bass. Also I am sometimes finding my AD700s hard to use in different places because of their sound leakage and whenever I am in a noisy place I have to turn my music right up! But that is what open back headphones are supposed to be like so i can't complain. It sounds like the K550 blocks the sound leakage and has very good isolation indeed from what I have read. I am just hoping that the detail and soundstage will be similar or better.

I hope this post is is the correct place.


Thanks

I've never heard the AD700 before so I can't make any comparisons. But, I can say that the k550's offer excellent detail retrieval and have a very spacious soundstage. There are times when I'll be wearing them at work (a testament to how well they isolate) and I'll swear that I forgot to mute the computer's built in audio and that music must be coming out of both the speakers and headphones, but when I take them off there's nothing coming from the computer, it was just the 550's ability to sound so open even though it's closed.
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