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post #526 of 4523

Been using the SS lately, I honestly though I was going to dislike and dismiss, but it's surprisingly nice. Was mostly worried of a harsh treble, but it isn't bad, I think perhaps because Im able to insert them quite deep with an over-the-ear fit.

 

joker mentioned he though that it was so revealing it seemed to show hidden artifacts, but I think that's just the slightly hint of audible distortion. Having said that, it gives it that unique sound, everything about this IEM tries to be exclusive and it sure does is in some attributes. 

post #527 of 4523

im using heaven 4..its quite good!!

post #528 of 4523
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

Ahh, I forgot the retina burning blue light on the wonderful Stepdance!

:-)

 

Normally the LED is greatly hidden beneath the Classic, even when I am using the UD100 as source.

 

 

 

I took the Classic off for the previous picture. Cheating, I suppose.

 

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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

Been using the SS lately, I honestly though I was going to dislike and dismiss, but it's surprisingly nice. Was mostly worried of a harsh treble, but it isn't bad, I think perhaps because Im able to insert them quite deep with an over-the-ear fit.

 

joker mentioned he though that it was so revealing it seemed to show hidden artifacts, but I think that's just the slightly hint of audible distortion. Having said that, it gives it that unique sound, everything about this IEM tries to be exclusive and it sure does is in some attributes. 

 

I am finding it impossible to ignore the love that the SS gets from many directions...

post #529 of 4523

Listening to a Best of Baroque collection on the PF IX. No doubt the Piano Fortes were created with this kind of music in mind. It is wonderful.

post #530 of 4523

For those of you who haven't heard, three new fullsized headphones were shown at RMAF. They range in build and price from a more affordable plastic model to the top model which will be metal and have an MSRP of around 1250 USD or thereabouts. 

 

Final Audio had them in stealth mode like a car manufacturer, wrapped up in fabric and other materials to try and hide their actual design. Initial impressions of their sound have been positive.

 

Thinking about putting in an order for the Heaven VI this week. Kinda... ehhh... not really feeling it at the moment however. I haven't had much urge to buy anything audio-related in a while. 

post #531 of 4523
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

For those of you who haven't heard, three new fullsized headphones were shown at RMAF. They range in build and price from a more affordable plastic model to the top model which will be metal and have an MSRP of around 1250 USD or thereabouts

 

Interesting. Final Audio really seems to be taking a new approach to pricing and the target audience.

post #532 of 4523
MF, that sounds fascinating, I wonder if anyone has taken some snaps? Paul. I agree, Baroque is made for the PF's. Last night I listened to Charles Avis 6 concertos and it was sublime. The other thing these are made for is Tom Waits, Bruce Springsteen or any other what I call "organic Rock". Buffalo springfield sounds so warm and organic through these, just how I remember the vinyl all those years ago.
post #533 of 4523
Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

I think I read about a revised Heaven SB being released (or in the works).. is there any truth to this.. and if so, anyone have some news on it?

  As mentioned earlier, that will be the Heaven VI, which is actually already out. 545$ via MA, which is a reliable seller FWIR. FAD states it takes the core concept of the Heaven IV and tweaks it to improve, housed in Chrome Copper, quite an exotic material for an IEM's housing. They market:

 

"The result is the first balanced armature earphone that perfectly reproduces the sound of a human voice"

post #534 of 4523

  Kind of late, but Rin recently did an analysis of all of the first generation FAD Heaven series BA IEMs, the Heaven S, A and SA. A seems to have the best performance, but it's drivers mismatch more than the other two

Originally Posted by james444 View Post

^ Interesting read, thanks for the link!
Regarding his comment #4, contrary to the SS, the Heaven A/C/S still seem to vent (a bit) through the strain reliefs, even if you block the rear vents. Therefore blocking the rear vents affects them less than the SS. jm2c.

  He tested this and no air escapes there, its sealed. 

post #535 of 4523
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

He tested this and no air escapes there, its sealed. 

 

Hmm, I tested this too when I wrote this review two years ago. Scroll a bit down and look at the dark reddish picture, where I fed light through the back vent.

 

dfkt and I both tested covering the vents back then and he concluded that the whole BAM thing was a cheat, because we couldn't hear much difference. That gave me the idea to investigate things more in-depth.

 

Strange that Rin would come to a different conclusion, especially since these are the exact same IEMs. confused.gif

post #536 of 4523

Well, first, covering the vent does make a difference, surprised you guys didn't hear it. The differences aren't big, but it reduces bass a bit. 

 

Rin completely sealed the strain reliefs and there was no sonic difference.


Edited by Inks - 10/18/12 at 8:59pm
post #537 of 4523

Actually here's what I think happens

 

The vent on the back of the Heaven FADs likely is being enclosed to trap in a specific amount of air, thus "Balancing Air Movement". Light comes out through that with no sonic difference because of that, it's independent of the sealed nature inside. 

 

Either that or his sealing had a leak, hmm. 


Edited by Inks - 10/18/12 at 9:05pm
post #538 of 4523
Thread Starter 

Cover the vent hole actually does make different to me, you get more compressed and flat sounding, with less bass as well.

post #539 of 4523

Just to be clear (cause you guys got me confused now, lol), I'm talking about the FI-BA-SB (Heaven S), not the FI-BA-SS.

 

Strain reliefs on the FI-BA-SS are sealed and covering the vents makes a noticeable difference, so I'm not doubting this.

 

But on the FI-BA-SB (Heaven S) we couldn't detect much difference, so I fed light through the vent and could clearly see it leaking through the strain relief:

 

post #540 of 4523
Originally Posted by james444 View Post

Just to be clear (cause you guys got me confused now, lol), I'm talking about the FI-BA-SB (Heaven S), not the FI-BA-SS.

 

Strain reliefs on the FI-BA-SS are sealed and covering the vents makes a noticeable difference, so I'm not doubting this.

 

But on the FI-BA-SB (Heaven S) we couldn't detect much difference, so I fed light through the vent and could clearly see it leaking through the strain relief:

  Yup, the Heavens. Even though light could escape through the housing on these, the BAM mechanism I think means it seals trapped air inside the housing that is brought from the outside vent on the back so it gets an specific amount in. Thus, no sonic difference when sealing the opening in the strain reliefs, yet covering that back vent results in a slight loss of bass. That's my take on what I think happens with these. 

 

  The SS seems to do something different with the vents, Rin will have to test these. 


Edited by Inks - 10/18/12 at 11:22pm
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