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Found this picture of the Heaven VII and VIII along with their product descriptions. What's interesting is that they both seem to be made out of stainless steel, which they say is molded from MIM (Metal Injection Molding). I'm assuming MIM is different (and hopefully a lot cheaper) than the laser printing used for the LAB I. I thought only the HVII would be steel and the HVIII would be copper or maybe brass, but apparently not. It's not clear whether they use 1 or 2 BAs, but I'm assuming they use 2 since they look similar to the LAB I. Besides the color, I have no idea what's the difference between the two. I've tried to decipher the descriptions and they seem practically identical too. Nothing about a release date or pricing. Hopefully more news about these will surface soon.

 

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Descriptions for the Heaven VII and VIII say:

"The housing is a stainless steel molded form created using MIM (Metal Injection Molding). After molding stainless steel powder with a die, the form is ____ in a furnace at temperatures exceeding 1,200 degrees, a method that achieves a housing that was impossible with metal-cut items. It has become possible to freely design housing forms that have considerable influence on sound quality.

With this new technology, it has become possible to control elements such as resonance and airflow that effect great changes to sound quality owing to this, a vast sound stage and natural that you could listen to..."

 

 

I can't make out any more words after that. The HVIII's description has one extra sentence more than the HVII's, but I can't really see what it says.


Edited by akarise - 5/25/14 at 1:30am
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Originally Posted by akarise View Post

Found this picture of the Heaven VII and VIII along with their product descriptions. What's interesting is that they both seem to be made out of stainless steel, which they say is molded from MIM (Metal Injection Molding). I'm assuming MIM is different (and hopefully a lot cheaper) than the laser printing used for the LAB I. I thought only the HVII would be steel and the HVIII would be copper or maybe brass, but apparently not. It's not clear whether they use 1 or 2 BAs, but I'm assuming they use 2 since they look similar to the LAB I. Besides the color, I have no idea what's the difference between the two. I've tried to decipher the descriptions and they seem practically identical too. Nothing about a release date or pricing. Hopefully more news about these will surface soon.

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Wow they certainly look unique, although I think FAD have maybe gone a step to far with their boutique design this time. Not sure I actually like the design. One thing I have learnt about FAD is not to judge a book by its cover as I really do not like the design of the heaven Vi copper housing with brown cables nearly put me off buying, but by golly do they sound good, by far the best universal I've tried and I've tried many .

I'd be keen on trying the heaven vii as it looks like they focus on sound staging . I'm looking forward to learning more about these. They will have to be good the beat the heaven vi though.
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It's time we have some dynamic-driver magic! FAD make it happen!

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Wow they certainly look unique, although I think FAD have maybe gone a step to far with their boutique design this time. Not sure I actually like the design. One thing I have learnt about FAD is not to judge a book by its cover as I really do not like the design of the heaven Vi copper housing with brown cables nearly put me off buying, but by golly do they sound good, by far the best universal I've tried and I've tried many .

I'd be keen on trying the heaven vii as it looks like they focus on sound staging . I'm looking forward to learning more about these. They will have to be good the beat the heaven vi though.

 

Yeah I didn't really like the design at first, but I think it's growing on me the more I look at it. I'm looking to try the HVII too, mainly because I feel like FAD will jack up the price for the HVIII very high haha.

 

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It's time we have some dynamic-driver magic! FAD make it happen!

 

That already exists as the Piano Fortes lol.

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Yeah I didn't really like the design at first, but I think it's growing on me the more I look at it. I'm looking to try the HVII too, mainly because I feel like FAD will jack up the price for the HVIII ver


Ha ha yes FAD do seem to have a very unique pricing structure. They must pay their research and development department an absolute fortune as they do come up with amazing (unique) looking and often amazing(unique) sounding products. Most of which only appeals to a small audience.

Although you never know regarding the heaven viii, they do sometimes surprise us and come out with reasonable priced products like the heaven IV, an absolute steal, and probably the best bang for buck in the whole FAD, line up.

I'm actually getting quite excited for these , just hope I'm not priced out.
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I know and I got the Fortes, and also the Adagio. But it's time to renew the dynamic lineup!

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Found this picture of the Heaven VII and VIII along with their product descriptions.

Great to have you in the FAD thread Rise. I think these new H phones are now my most anticipated phones. (Gotta see what's got ol' muzak so captivated) Lawd knows I can't spring for a LAB, what with the prohibitive price and extreme exclusivity.
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... It's not clear whether they use 1 or 2 BAs, but I'm assuming they use 2 since they look similar to the LAB I....

 

... Hopefully more news about these will surface soon.

 

 

 

 

Nice find! Indeed, a release date would be awesome. If they are in shows already, it won't be long. I'll reach out to my FAD guy in Japan and see what the deal is. 

 

1 or 2 BA's, while they departed from the traditional design of the Heaven series, all of the  so far have been a single armature. I think it would be really weird to design them like Lab1, unlike Heaven, and stick 2 BA's in there and label it "Heaven."

 

 

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Wow they certainly look unique, although I think FAD have maybe gone a step to far with their boutique design this time. Not sure I actually like the design.

 

Yeah, I'm on the fence with that flashy gold, with all the flair on it. Heaven VI worked out with a seemingly darker copper gold, and a no frills minimalist design, so gold worked. The silver rendition of the HVII and Lab1 look good to me. 

 

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Great to have you in the FAD thread Rise. I think these new H phones are now my most anticipated phones. 

 

x2 on both counts 

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The Heaven VI has me looking forward to these new models arriving with us soon - hopefully within the next month, the VI's are exceptional for woodwind which I love.

 

It shouldn't be long now! Fingers crossed I don't snaffle them first!

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How did you find the sound isolation and sealing of the earbuds (FAD LAB1)? I am thinking of buying a pair (LAB1) but I am currently using SE846 and was wondering about the comparative bass and ear sealing. The price is almost double that of the SE846 so I am wondering what I am actually getting for the increase in price. I listen to R&B, soul, DnB and house. are these suited for those genres?


Edited by pat9486 - 5/27/14 at 4:24am
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post
 

Howdy.

 

I'm one of the more vocal fans of Final Audio Design here on head-fi, and I'm currently working on a guide of sorts that will explain FAD's catalog and offer impressions for [most of] their products. Unfortunately I've been a bit swamped recently, so it's currently on hold.

 

My FAD collection at the moment:

 

1350 M1

1601 SB (coming soon to me from FAD Taiwan)

1602 SS Piano Forte IX

1602 SC Piano Forte X-CC

Adagio III

Adagio V

FI-BA-SB Heaven S

FI-BA-SS (black cable -- on loan from James444)

FI-BA-SS (white cable -- special prototype edition for FAD employees)

Heaven IV

Piano Forte II earbuds

 

I've also got the Muramasa VIII full-sized headphones on the way to me this month, so impressions for that will probably take priority over anything else. Apparently no one outside of Asia other than me ordered these lol.

 

That aside, I must admit this thread has quite a bit of potential for turning into a train wreck. Whenever FAD gets mentioned 'round these parts, it tends to solicit comments about outrageous prices, questions of value, accusations of snake oil changing hands, and a whole host of tired, recycled content from individuals who don't understand the company's M.O. and target demographic and, often times, haven't even listened to a single FAD produ

 

 

Do you know anything about the sound isolation of FAD LAB1 and the sealing of the earbuds? I am thinking of buying a pair but I am currently using SE846 and was wondering about the comparative bass and ear sealing. The price is almost double that of the SE846 so I am wondering what I am actually getting for the increase in price. I listen to R&B, soul, DnB,house and some contemporary. are these suited for those genres?

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Own the Heaven IV but hardly use them. The sound is great just that it doesn't sit in my ears especially when walking

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I suppose the Lab1 is the same sort of design...that does not sound good...I also do a lot of walking with my iems....I may have give them a test drive when at Jaben in KL

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Originally Posted by autumnholy View Post
 

I know and I got the Fortes, and also the Adagio. But it's time to renew the dynamic lineup!

 

Haha yeah. I'm guessing FAD is focusing on the Heavens first because it's not as polarizing as the PF line and will generate more sales.

 

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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Great to have you in the FAD thread Rise. I think these new H phones are now my most anticipated phones. (Gotta see what's got ol' muzak so captivated) Lawd knows I can't spring for a LAB, what with the prohibitive price and extreme exclusivity.

 

Great to be here :) Yeah I don't think I've ever been more excited for the release of new IEMs than for the Heaven VII and VIII. They really might end up being my endgame IEMs.

 

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Nice find! Indeed, a release date would be awesome. If they are in shows already, it won't be long. I'll reach out to my FAD guy in Japan and see what the deal is. 

 

1 or 2 BA's, while they departed from the traditional design of the Heaven series, all of the  so far have been a single armature. I think it would be really weird to design them like Lab1, unlike Heaven, and stick 2 BA's in there and label it "Heaven."

 

Yeah, I'm on the fence with that flashy gold, with all the flair on it. Heaven VI worked out with a seemingly darker copper gold, and a no frills minimalist design, so gold worked. The silver rendition of the HVII and Lab1 look good to me. 

 

x2 on both counts 

 

Oh nice! Let us know if you find out any info from your inside guy!

 

Hmm, you might be right about there only being 1 BA. It seems like the housing is slightly slimmer than the LAB I. Perhaps the new unibody metal housing will provide significant improvements in sound without the need of adding another BA. I think the use of the dual full-range BAs in the LAB I was to increase impact and quantity in the lower frequencies rather than to improve extension the way multi-BAs are normally used, which resulted in the darker signature that some have reported. If FAD found the single BA to still be able to provide the same level of sound quality and wanted to stay away from a darker signature, I see no reason for them to switch to a dual-BA design.

 

Agreed on the silver looking better. If the sound of the HVII and HVIII are very close, I'll most likely just get the HVII for the looks and lower price.

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I may be acquiring the FAD Heaven VI very soon but I'd just like to ask what differences I can expect between the wide bore and narrow bore ear tips. What are the disadvantages of each or is there a clearly better sounding ear tip in your opinion?
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