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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post
 

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The Heaven II is indeed thinner than the rest of the herd, but it definitely still has a likeable sound, and I like how it's largely neutral with the bass, being bass light most of the time, but can belt out the bass when called for.


I guess we like different sound signatures, mine being more of a typical FAD sound - lush mids with impactful bass.

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

I'm not sure which headphone your comment is aimed at but in my opinion properly driven the Heaven VI is a superb IEM that has no major technical defects. (The bass could be better controlled; that is the limitation of the single BA; excellent amplification is the best remedy.) To my taste the Heaven Vi is the best BA IEM that I have heard - better than the Westone ES5 which is a very well regarded multi-BA custom IEM, better than the Fitear TG334, the list goes on and on...


I meant that comparing FAD IEMs to others isn't a very good idea. People like FAD for what it is, regardless of everything else.

Brainwavz B2 is technically superior to Heaven IV, but I never listen to it - don't like the analytical sound.

If someone isn't into FAD's signature sound - they will be better off looking somewhere else for their next purchase.

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^ I agree to some degree but to be clear, I didn't like the Heaven IV when I heard it. I found it to be flat and boring. So the Heaven IV is 85% of the Heaven VI is not a view that I subscribe to.

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Originally Posted by BenF View Post
 


Heaven IV and VI are all about the magical mids, which only RE-262 can compare to.

If you are looking for the best technical performance, look elsewhere.

I'm just looking for something that has good bass that doesn't bleed into the mids and highs. I mainly listen to Kpop (Songs like this or this, for example). The DN-1000 was an option but it's far too heavy for my liking (Current IEMs are about 2 grams without the cable, DN-1000 is around 10 times heavier)

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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post
 

I'm just looking for something that has good bass that doesn't bleed into the mids and highs. I mainly listen to Kpop (Songs like this or this, for example). The DN-1000 was an option but it's far too heavy for my liking (Current IEMs are about 2 grams without the cable, DN-1000 is around 10 times heavier)


These two songs sound great in Heaven IV over ODAC+E12

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

^ I agree to some degree but to be clear, I didn't like the Heaven IV when I heard it. I found it to be flat and boring. So the Heaven IV is 85% of the Heaven VI is not a view that I subscribe to.


It only sounds flat and boring with the narrow tips.

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I just love FAD VI for been the total opposite of what my preference is. So easy to the ears, so engaging. While it is not as accurate as er4s or as revealing as ck100pro but non of them can do it like VI.
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More pics:

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by ostewart View Post
 

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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

woodcans likes....!!! 

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yay, getting the hang of it :)

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The new DIY kit looks cool.

 

 

http://final-audio-design.com/archives/2255

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I'm hoping to get one, would be awesome!

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

The new DIY kit looks cool.

 

 

http://final-audio-design.com/archives/2255

The bad news:

The driver is the same/similar as the Heaven II one.

The 6 kinds of sponges are different from what they used in Heaven II or IV.

Manual is in Japanese

 

The good news:

The package shipped already, should get them in 2-3 weeks

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I just received my Pandora Hope VI three days ago and have been burning them in and testing them out. A lot has been said about the packaging and build quality of the headphone (absolutely gorgeous and extremely high quality) so I'll focus mostly on the experience of using them so far.

 

Comfort is so-so for me. They're definitely heavy and I notice the strain on my neck after a while. My ears, which aren't very large and don't stick out much, usually don't touch the drivers if I position the cups a certain way, but at times I'll notice that the cups shift and my ears do end up touching the driver. It just takes a quick repositioning of the headphones but it can be slightly annoying at times. Really hoping FAD is developing new pads to solve this issue. Since my head isn't perfectly round on top, the weight of the headphones does focus on the top of my head and this gets tiring after a while. I've found headband designs that distribute weight across the head, like those on the AT full-sized cans, to be much more comfortable. This obviously won't be a problem for everyone though. Clamping force was slightly too strong at first but after stretching out the headband a bit, this problem was solved. My final issue with comfort is that my ears get hot after a while, which is to be expected since this is a closed headphone. My ears seem to give off a lot of heat, maybe more than the average person's ears do, so I've always had this issue with closed headphones but just thought I'd mention it.

 

Sound quality is great, although not exactly my preferred sound signature. First thing I noticed was how deep and textured the lows were. There is a good amount of decay and it sounds quite natural. Sub bass goes very low and has quite a bit of rumble. FAD has done a great job making sure that the lows don't interfere with the mids. I agree with ostewart in saying that the lows sit slightly ahead of the mids. The mids sound very clear and have a slightly magical feel to them like they do on my Heaven V, although I feel like this magical feeling is much more obvious on the Heaven V. The upper mids stand out the most and female vocals sound absolutely beautiful. The lower mids are still very well done and male vocals sound great too but don't stand out like the upper mids do. One thing I've noticed about the lower mids is that sometimes they don't sound as clear, which I'm guessing is because the dynamic driver may have taken over. This has only stood out on certain songs though and I'll keep testing to see if this can become jarring at times. The highs are more on the polite side and aren't fatiguing at all. They are still pretty detailed but lack the same amount of sparkle that I got used to on the Heaven V, which makes them sound a bit less airy.

 

Soundstage is quite good and the best I've heard on a closed headphone. There's a very obvious out-of-head experience when listening to music but it wouldn't fool one to think it might be open. Width and depth are both very good, and height is decent although definitely not as tall as on my AD2000X. Imaging and separation is excellent as I have no problems visualizing each instrument, voice, and sound in its own defined space.

 

I do have some minor personal gripes about the sound of these headphones that I'm sure not everyone would agree with. I wish the mids were more forward because I feel like the lows can sometimes be so powerful that it draws my attention away from the vocals. I wish that the highs had more sparkle to add more excitement and energy to the sound and also provide more airiness. Finally, although I really enjoy the decay and sub bass rumble, I wish that the bass was tighter and faster overall. I should probably mention that the Heaven V are very close to my ideal sound signature, should anyone need a reference for where I'm coming from.

 

Overall, I think these headphones are amazing for the price. Build quality and looks are phenomenal. Their sound is very balanced and no frequency range really stands out much so I would definitely not consider these a niche product. Weight and shallow earpads may be issues for some but even with those issues, I persisted to keep them on for over 3 hours at a time because they just sounded that great. FAD has really put together quite a package in the design and sound quality of these headphones and I would highly recommend trying them out if ever given the chance as I've found the listening experience to be quite unique.

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