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post #3436 of 4849

Cheers and good night.

 

post #3437 of 4849
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This morning I decided to bring out the 1601 SC and 1602 SC. I was in a mood to listen to Coil and Swans, and few other earphones "do it" for me with these bands quite like the FADs.

 

So you got the 1601SC...!  I am delighted for you. Also my only source of guilt in this forum ebbs away. Phew.  :-)

 

I look forward to your post greatly.

post #3438 of 4849
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So you got the 1601SC...!  I am delighted for you. Also my only source of guilt in this forum ebbs away. Phew.  :-)

 

I look forward to your post greatly.

 

Yeah, I found what had to be one of the last brand new and unused ones in the world. Good thing too, as IMHO it's the best dynamic earphone FAD has ever made, basically combining that intoxicating warm character of the Piano Forte X with the added clarity of the PFIX. Or put another way: it sounds similar to the PFX, but with slightly more treble emphasis and sense of air compared to the PFX's relatively thicker sound. That's when used with the metal tips.

 

Also this is highly subjective, but for me the 1601 SC with its "rose gold jar of mystery" look is the most beautiful earphone of all time.

 

The only downside is the fit which is, for me, not as good as with the 1602 / Piano Fortes.

post #3439 of 4849
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post
 

 

Yeah, I found what had to be one of the last brand new and unused ones in the world. Good thing too, as IMHO it's the best dynamic earphone FAD has ever made, basically combining that intoxicating warm character of the Piano Forte X with the added clarity of the PFIX. Or put another way: it sounds similar to the PFX, but with slightly more treble emphasis and sense of air compared to the PFX's relatively thicker sound. That's when used with the metal tips.

 

Also this is highly subjective, but for me the 1601 SC with its "rose gold jar of mystery" look is the most beautiful earphone of all time.

 

The only downside is the fit which is, for me, not as good as with the 1602 / Piano Fortes.

 

I agree fully with your description. (Although I have not heard as many FAD dynamic headphones as you, I have heard a few including the PFIX which I own and the PFX which still intrigue me as a future indulgence.) The 1601SC is something really special.

 

I am glad that your comments focus on 'with the metal tips" as that is all I have. My demo set did not have the plastic alternatives which got misplaced by the store over the years. I did get a remarkable price - including a missing accessories discount that I negotiated - which is why I dived in. Happy that I did. I love them.

post #3440 of 4849
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

Yeah, I found what had to be one of the last brand new and unused ones in the world. Good thing too, as IMHO it's the best dynamic earphone FAD has ever made, basically combining that intoxicating warm character of the Piano Forte X with the added clarity of the PFIX. Or put another way: it sounds similar to the PFX, but with slightly more treble emphasis and sense of air compared to the PFX's relatively thicker sound. That's when used with the metal tips.

Also this is highly subjective, but for me the 1601 SC with its "rose gold jar of mystery" look is the most beautiful earphone of all time.

The only downside is the fit which is, for me, not as good as with the 1602 / Piano Fortes.

The Indiana Jones of FAD!
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Ok. I think I finally narrowed my choices and I will pick up either the FAD Heaven VI or the Parterre this week, hopefully they will be in before Christmas. Does anyone here have both? Can you make a comparison between them. The fitears are a more expensive option but I'm not sure how much better they perform...

 

I'm looking for a sort of mid forward sound sig with airy vocals, a big soundstage and neutral bass. Clarity, detail and instrument seperation is also very important. Treble wise I like a bit of sparkle with good extension without any harshness or sibilance. The music that I listen to are jpop, jrock/metal, female vocals, post rock, math rock, shoegazer, jazz, piano, instrumentals, classical, noise rock, punk rock and a bit of hip hop/rap.

 

Thanks.


Edited by Love Music - 12/13/13 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

Ok. I think I finally narrowed my choices and I will pick up either the FAD Heaven VI or the Parterre this week, hopefully they will be in before Christmas. Does anyone here have both? Can you make a comparison between them. The fitears are a more expensive option but I'm not sure how much better they perform...

 

I'm looking for a sort of mid forward sound sig with airy vocals, a big soundstage and neutral bass. Clarity, detail and instrument seperation is also very important. Treble wise I like a bit of sparkle with good extension without any harshness or sibilance. The music that I listen to are jpop, jrock/metal, female vocals, post rock, math rock, shoegazer, jazz, piano, instrumentals, noise rock, punk rock and a bit of hip hop/rap.

 

Thanks.

 

I can tell u, IMHO, Parterre has LOTS of bass.

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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

Ok. I think I finally narrowed my choices and I will pick up either the FAD Heaven VI or the Parterre this week, hopefully they will be in before Christmas. Does anyone here have both? Can you make a comparison between them. The fitears are a more expensive option but I'm not sure how much better they perform...

 

I'm looking for a sort of mid forward sound sig with airy vocals, a big soundstage and neutral bass. Clarity, detail and instrument seperation is also very important. Treble wise I like a bit of sparkle with good extension without any harshness or sibilance. The music that I listen to are jpop, jrock/metal, female vocals, post rock, math rock, shoegazer, jazz, piano, instrumentals, classical, noise rock, punk rock and a bit of hip hop/rap.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

The Parterre's mids are actually the most recessed sounding to me of any of the FitEar models. It was voiced to have more of a classic "U shaped" signature. I'd also consider the Heaven VI to be U-shaped as well, but not in as overt a way. Both have bass that I wouldn't call neutral in a strict sense, more north of neutral, but I wouldn't really call either a "basshead" signature. The Parterre sounds a bit clearer to me, whereas the Heaven VI has a warmth to its timbre and thickness imparted by the copper housing, though both sound crisp and have a lot of detail. Imaging is great on both, but the Parterre sounds relatively more grandiose and large-scale. Extension on the Parterre is a bit better as well. Keep in mind however that the Parterre is more than double the price of the Heaven VI. Also personally I find the mids on the FADs to be a little more seductive.

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MuppetFace, I wonder why to my ears (i'm not sure about you or others, but I hope so :P) that FAD has this special kind of mid which sounds lush and seductive. It's not really about clarity i guess. It just has this kind of quality which I can't find in other IEM/Headphones. Is it mainly because of the housing materials?

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Which FAD IEM would you advise for contemporary music and large orchestral (Mahler, Stravinsky, and so on) ?

Thank you for your advice (I currently own Ortofon QE-7 which are pretty impressive for their accuracy and speed, but lack a bit "texture" for my taste.

 

Second question : between Piano Forte VII and IX, is price difference worth it ? Is Fi-Bass more jazz/amplified oriented ?


Edited by quantx - 12/13/13 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by quantx View Post
 

Which FAD IEM would you advise for contemporary music and large orchestral (Mahler, Stravinsky, and so on) ?

Thank you for your advice (I currently own Ortofon QE-7 which are pretty impressive for their accuracy and speed, but lack a bit "texture" for my taste.

 

Second question : between Piano Forte VII and IX, is price difference worth it ? Is Fi-Bass more jazz/amplified oriented ?

 

I recommend starting with the Heaven V. It's the current sweet spot in the lineup in my opinion, giving you more of a typical FAD type of sound compared to the Heaven IV) but not quite as colored as the Heaven VI.

 

The Piano Forte models aren't really "better" than one another, they just have different colorations. The FI-BA-SS is completely different, more of a BA type of signature, much more linear and extended (compared to the PFs) and detail oriented compared to the richer sounding PFs.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by autumnholy View Post
 

MuppetFace, I wonder why to my ears (i'm not sure about you or others, but I hope so :P) that FAD has this special kind of mid which sounds lush and seductive. It's not really about clarity i guess. It just has this kind of quality which I can't find in other IEM/Headphones. Is it mainly because of the housing materials?

 

My guess is the Molex drivers have a distinct character to them since almost all FAD earphones have it. The metal housings do seem to add to the timbre however; it's a subtle effect, but it's there. To my ears the stainless models have the clearest or "purist" sound, while the brass ones are more lively, and the copper ones are the warmest and most lush.

 

FAD uses a special metal alloy powder that looks like sand to help tune the earphones as well. My guess is this would affect the overall tonal balance more than the timbre however.

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Originally Posted by quantx View Post
 

Which FAD IEM would you advise for contemporary music and large orchestral (Mahler, Stravinsky, and so on) ?

Thank you for your advice (I currently own Ortofon QE-7 which are pretty impressive for their accuracy and speed, but lack a bit "texture" for my taste.

 

Second question : between Piano Forte VII and IX, is price difference worth it ? Is Fi-Bass more jazz/amplified oriented ?

 

 

I recommend you go with the FI-BA-SS. It's the FAD phone with the more typical audiophile sound, yet with good capabilities. I bought a pair of EQ-5s to see if it captured the essence of the FI-BA-SS, and it didn't. What you'll gain from the upgrade is much deeper and textured bass, full mids, and better treble. If you want texture, the SS will grant it to you in spades. It makes the piano and strings sound like good old friends.

 

As for the Piano Fortes, those are a different story. I find them to be very mood dependent, really. They remind me of the typical gramophone sound. On my first go around with them, I was stricken by how they presented some of my music. This time around, I find myself far less enamored by them. So that may be something to be considered.

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TBH, as much as I love the FI-BA-SS, I think you're getting 95% of its capabilities with the Heaven V and VI for less than half the price.

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post
 

TBH, as much as I love the FI-BA-SS, I think you're getting 95% of its capabilities with the Heaven V and VI for less than half the price.

 

Maybe in technicalities, but I just had a go at the HV a few weeks ago. I don't really find them similar to the SS. The V is a good deal more colored in the mids, and the bass feels slower and less striking than that of the SS. I remember being amazed by what a single BA phone was doing in the low end. I didn't get that same feel from the V.

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

 

 

I recommend you go with the FI-BA-SS. It's the FAD phone with the more typical audiophile sound, yet with good capabilities. I bought a pair of EQ-5s to see if it captured the essence of the FI-BA-SS, and it didn't. What you'll gain from the upgrade is much deeper and textured bass, full mids, and better treble. If you want texture, the SS will grant it to you in spades. It makes the piano and strings sound like good old friends.

 

As for the Piano Fortes, those are a different story. I find them to be very mood dependent, really. They remind me of the typical gramophone sound. On my first go around with them, I was stricken by how they presented some of my music. This time around, I find myself far less enamored by them. So that may be something to be considered.

 

 I can x2 eke's rec.

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