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post #1921 of 4839
Yeah, gritty is the right word but the album is addictive!

Here is his mum singing, you can easily hear where his inspiration came from!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUCPuD_RAZM
post #1922 of 4839
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

I though you were saying I needed to polish it to achieve what FAD intended. Great. No extra work. Interesting about the cloth though. Thanks for the info.

lol! I thought you wanted to stop it from getting any worse! if you like the effect then just let it do its thing.
post #1923 of 4839
Worse?!?!!!!
I only have one heart man.

I kind of like how it's gotten more reflective though. You can see the less diffuse reflection in the day 6 pic on the left side.

Thanks for the heart attack btw Shane. I'll be kind of shocked if it actually goes green.
post #1924 of 4839
kinda browny green. wink.gif
post #1925 of 4839
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

Yeah, gritty is the right word but the album is addictive!

Here is his mum singing, you can easily hear where his inspiration came from!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUCPuD_RAZM

 

Molly Drake:

 

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/mar/22/nick-drake-mother-molly#


Edited by zilch0md - 5/26/13 at 5:49am
post #1926 of 4839
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

 

Moments after opening the package:

 

....

 

 

3 days later:

 

....

 

 

6 days after opening (different lighting unfortunately, but still significant):

 

....

 

 

Wow, that's pretty dramatic considering the time frame. My pair looks pretty much the same to my eyes, but then I haven't used them as much as you most likely. I also wipe them down after every use.

 

I'm HOPING they end up developing a green patina. That would look so striking and unique. I'd rather they not just get muddy brown / dull.

 

 


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What's the difference between heaven s and iv?

 

The Heaven IV is the least colored of the Heaven lineup to my ears, perhaps the most "un-FAD" of their BAs (though I'd still say the Adagio V ranks as the least FADish sounding earphone of all to my ears, almost cold sounding to me). It sounds fairly balanced overall with a touch of midrange warmth. IMO it's been eclipsed by the Heaven V as the best entry point into FAD's lineup. The Heaven V has a much more holographic, less compressed sound and is a bit more lively sounding without being any more fatiguing for me.

 

The Heaven S has more of a characteristic FAD sound than the Heaven IV, though compared to the newer Heaven models I find its treble is hotter and a bit tizzy. This is what makes it stand out most from the rest of the Heaven lineup in my opinion: it's the "feistiest" sounding, but this gives it a certain perceptual edge in rendering detail for some folks. Personally I find the treble a bit fatiguing after a while.

post #1927 of 4839
Listening together and commenting live on the Nick Drake album last night with SoundFreaq and Ianmedium was great fun, and showed me how good the PFIXs can be.

I decided after we all got offline, to do a further comparison, although I was a bit concerned about potentially spoiling my very positive impressions of the PFIXs last night by bringing out my AT-3000ANVs and FI-BA-SSs for an in depth listening session, with the benefit of knowing this time what to listen for on the individual tracks. Over an hour later, I realized that I needn't have been concerned!

Starting with my ATs, I was certain that the soundstage would improve in depth at least. It did not. O.K. Then they would retrieve more detail from the album, and give a greater sense of space in the soundstage They did not. And finally, the overall presentation of the music would be even more balanced and coherent. It was not.

I then moved on to the FI-BA-SSs. Surely they would dig even deeper into the album's details, and further enhance the renderings of some of the wide range of instruments used on this album, such as the texture of the sound of the bongo/conga drums. They did not. While being very good headphones for this album too, to my ears, they didn't as completely capture the feeling of being there live, as the album was being recorded.
Edited by Ridleyguy - 5/26/13 at 6:04am
post #1928 of 4839
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post


Wow, that's pretty dramatic considering the time frame. My pair looks pretty much the same to my eyes, but then I haven't used them as much as you most likely. I also wipe them down after every use.

I'm HOPING they end up developing a green patina. That would look so striking and unique. I'd rather they not just get muddy brown / dull.

No one said anything about wiping them down... frown.gif


And muddy brown?????
You guys are about to make a grown man cry.
I think they've taken on a sophisticated sheen. tongue.gif
post #1929 of 4839
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Originally Posted by Ridleyguy View Post

Listening together and commenting live on the Nick Drake album last night with SoundFreaq and Ianmedium was great fun, and showed me how good the PFIXs can be.

I decided after we all got offline, to do a further comparison, although I was a bit concerned about potentially spoiling my very positive impressions of the PFIXs last night by bringing out my AT-3000ANVs and FI-BA-SSs for an in depth listening session, with the benefit of knowing this time what to listen for on the individual tracks. Over an hour later, I realized that I needn't have been concerned!

Starting with my ATs, I was certain that the soundstage would improve in depth at least. It did not. O.K. Then they would retrieve more detail from the album, and give a greater sense of space in the soundstage They did not. And finally, the overall presentation of the music would be even more balanced and coherent. It was not.

I then moved on to the FI-BA-SSs. Surely they would dig even deeper into the album's details, and further enhance the renderings of some of the wide range of instruments used on this album, such as the texture of the sound of the bongo/conga drums. They did not. While being very good headphones for this album too, to my ears, they didn't as completely capture the feeling of being there live, as the album was being recorded.

I went through all his albums last night (mind, thats not unusual, I usually listen at least once a month!). I loved them pretty much equally on my T5P's though it was a little less intimate than the PF's and I prefer the palpable sense of the acoustic space the PF's bring to the table.

I think you nailed it, the PF's unlike any other headphone I have listened to truly capture the feeling and ambience of a recording studio in Chelsea in the late 1960's and being old enough to remember that period (even though through a childs eyes) I would say they are the most accurate in replication of feeling of that time. Heck second time round I swear I could smell patchouli oil and sweat blink.gif

Mike, thank you for the wonderful picture of Molly, she was a beauty and for anyone interested I am going to post here a link to a documentary on Nick which I posted on the chat.. Oh i wish people in England still spoke like they did back then, tea and crumpets for tea anyone!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxz7th_a-skin-too-few-the-days-of-nick-drake_music#.UaIoGpV8bDp
post #1930 of 4839
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No one said anything about wiping them down... frown.gif




And muddy brown?????
You guys are about to make a grown man cry.
I think they've taken on a sophisticated sheen. tongue.gif

lol! just enjoy them man. there's no need to wipe them down. smily_headphones1.gif
post #1931 of 4839
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lol! just enjoy them man. there's no need to wipe them down. smily_headphones1.gif

 

+1

 

Try researching what Picasso used to do with his freshly cast bronze sculptures to accelerate their patina - you might want to give that a try!

 

wink.gif

post #1932 of 4839

Ian,

 

 

That was saddening, watching the ice crystals grow across the window panes of the bedroom at his parent's place, as they described his death.  It was a very well edited documentary. 

 

I'm on my third time listening to Five Leaves Left.  It just gets better and better, despite being fabulous the first time I heard it.  

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

post #1933 of 4839
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

 

+1

 

Try researching what Picasso used to do with his freshly cast bronze sculptures to accelerate their patina - you might want to give that a try!

 

wink.gif

 

While I'm sure his technique produced superb results, I will respectfully have to take a... pass.

 

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lol! just enjoy them man. there's no need to wipe them down. smily_headphones1.gif

 

I have been, maybe too much. biggrin.gif

post #1934 of 4839
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While I'm sure his technique produced superb results, I will respectfully have to take a... pass.

 

 

Good one!   biggrin.gif

post #1935 of 4839
I really would like to thank Mitsuru Hosoo, product and marketing director of FAD and S Next

I met him in Tokyo headphone festival and show him my 2 FAD forte X and one of them required filter repair so I ask him for the price of fixing and ship to thailand. He just offer fixing for free of charge.

Thank you very much for your service.
Phanom
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