Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Final Audio Design Impressions and Discussion Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Final Audio Design Impressions and Discussion Thread - Page 123

post #1831 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post

This tube amp looks interesting and you guys should be able to try it out in Germany:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/522332/earmax-silver-edition

 

http://www.soundland.de/catalog/kopfhoererverstaerker/brocksieper-earmax-se-p-259930.html?desc=1&language=uk

 

No, I own the Earmax Pro which has output impedance of 85 ohms. It is a great little amp but a terrible match for the PFs. The Earmax SE output impedance should be lower but it is still no amp for IEMs. Earmax are OTL designs and thrive with Sennheiser and Beyer high ohm headphones.

post #1832 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

Oh, yes, PG is very nice:



I actually bought tea when you posted that. Your influence transcends the Internet.
post #1833 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by vwinter View Post

I actually bought tea when you posted that. Your influence transcends the Internet.

 

Well, since I was on the phone to my sister earlier today, and in the middle of our conversation we happened to speak a bit about tea (something we very rarely do), perhaps it's worth posting a link to this brilliant track once again, one that actually took me a few listens to fully enjoy when I bought the album maaaany years ago, a song that always gets different parts of my body to respond instantly, no thinking, no analysis, just pure 'body talk': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ8jsqJHVLk  (bet this one sounds great with the Heaven Vs & Vs)

As for tea, I do like PG, but my favourite, after all these years, is still Twinings English Breakfast (even over other more expensive and exotic tea varieties, though I'm certainly no tea expert). I believe, however, the Twinings English Breakfast sold in the US isn't quite the same (read: not as good) as the one sold in the UK, at least that is the case with Twinings teas sold in other parts of Europe.


Edited by music_4321 - 5/21/13 at 11:44am
post #1834 of 4523
Ianmedium -Thanks a lot for this recommendation. What a great maybe not so little but transportable amp. Just fallen in love having seen the black version and the black leather carrying case. Also (with the exception of my hd800) impedance should match nicely with my different grados, the k3003, k701 and t5p. Should also be a great amp to take with me on my business trips.
Edited by GermanGuy - 5/21/13 at 12:00pm
post #1835 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by GermanGuy View Post

Ianmedium -Thanks a lot for this recommendation. What a great maybe not so little but transportable amp. Just fallen in love having seen the black version and the black leather carrying case. Also (with the exception of my hd800) impedance should match nicely with my different grados, the k3003, k701 and t5p. Should also be a great amp to take with me on my business trips.

 

What??!! You also have the K3003???!!! The indisputable King of incoherence?! Well, although this is not a K3003 thread, GermanGuy, let me give you the warmest welcome to this thread, a thread where some of us own some of the worst phones ever made.

post #1836 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

 let me give you the warmest welcome to this thread club, a thread my club where some of us own and love some of the worst phones ever made.

 

Fixed.

 

 

I think you left out the important parts. Although GermanGuy is savvy, he may not be privy to this thread's club's sarcastic discourse.


Edited by SoundFreaq - 5/21/13 at 12:15pm
post #1837 of 4523
Will try to get used to it :-)
post #1838 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

 let me give you the warmest welcome to this thread club, a thread my club where some of us own and love some of the worst phones ever made.

 

Fixed.

 

I think you left out the important parts. Although GermanGuy is savvy, he may not be privy to this thread's club's sarcastic discourse.

 

No sarcasm. The K3003, Piano Fortes, 1601s, FI-BA-SS, FI-BA-SB, the older Heavens (and possibly all the new Heavens) are all basically pretty bad phones, to put it mildly... or quite mediocre at best, and that is a fact.

 

But, "my club"? Hmmm… perhaps this might be a good time for me to take a backseat and stop posting in this thread for a little while.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_OcH1gxVZA


Edited by music_4321 - 5/21/13 at 12:44pm
post #1839 of 4523

I totally understand and agree with you. However, many won't recognize them as actually being bad earphones. And do we not love them?

 

I probably did not use enough emoticons. "Your club" was simply a reference to the joke about you saying we were a club, which I guess is getting a little worn out now. 

 

And yes, I meant to comment on your feedback about my FI-BA-SS review. I agree with you about the tips/harshness. It seems all of the FAD IEM's that require tips are fairly dramatically effected by tip rolling. And that SS bass. So great. Not enough for a basshead, but it certainly has proper aplomb. 

post #1840 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

No sarcasm. The K3003, Piano Fortes, 1601s, FI-BA-SS, FI-BA-SB, the older Heavens (and possibly all the new Heavens) are all basically pretty bad phones, to put it mildly... or quite mediocre at best, and that is a fact.

I do not believe you sir, not for a second, not that I've heard them or anything.

Relatedly, I've now had some time with the Heaven V and frankly, what FAD does with a single BA should be illegal.
post #1841 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

Speaking of the FI-BA-SS, here are some notes I wrote on it. 

 

Excellent review, thank you for sharing!

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

Thanks me old chum, I have a luddite cell phone (not interested in phones at all) with a 2 megapixel camera so I get instagram without trying! blink.gif

 

I, like music, also truly appreciate what your 'vintage' phone camera does for your photo. Vintsagram, for sure.

 

Now, this is not competition, just chance. I took the following photo with my cell phone two days ago. I did not have my 'good' camera with me and I have debated with myself if this shot has enough merit to post. I doubt it, but in any event here it is. As it was taken with my phone, I allowed one crop, but nothing else. Not great, but hopefully unique

 

 

 

The end of the... (Click to show)

AppleMark

 

 

 

Also, since joining this thread club, I have noticed that I am now buying albums for my 'phones when in the past I had always bought 'phones for my albums. I think this is a good thing, although it certainly is digging into my K3003 846 PFX budget.

 

And I can largely thank music for this, btw. Speaking of music:

 

Sarcasm taken to the extreme! (Click to show)

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

But, "my club"? Hmmm… perhaps this might be a good time for me to take a backseat and stop posting in this thread for a little while.

 

 

 

 

 

And finally, before I turn in for the night, I happened to capture this with my 'good' camera. I hope you like it.

 

 

 

 

post #1842 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by vwinter View Post




Relatedly, I've now had some time with the Heaven V and frankly, what FAD does with a single BA should be illegal.

 

Those were my exact thoughts about the FI-BA-SS

post #1843 of 4523
A few very early impressions of the PF IXs and FI-BA-SSs. Please note that I have very little experience with IEMs other than with the Sennheiser IE8. Most of my listening was done with the PF IXs.

I mentioned earlier in my first post on this thread, that I listen primarily to classical music, and so I started there with both of these headphones. My setup: MacBook Pro >Amarra (Toslink)>RWA Isabellina LFP-V (Pro DAC)>ATH- 5000ANV. I also tried them both out of an iPod Classic which I found to be quite good.

The biggest surprise with the PF IXs so far to me, is the amount of detail they reveal. I was expecting to hear a wide soundstage with them, but not the breathing of choral singers and the non-musical sounds that only very revealing headphones, or those with a tipped up treble region pick up from the orchestra pit.

The PF IXs seem to make old poorly recorded acoustic material, at least the music I tried, tolerable to listen to, whereas the FI-BA-SS showed all of the recordings' faults. No news here, as I think this is consistent with what others have said about them. An example of this would be a DG 1962 recording by David Oistrach of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto. As is typical with classical music, there are many great performances by great artists that were poorly recorded. This in itself, if you have enough of these recordings, would likely eliminate the FI-BA-SS as one's only headphones, as the performance is overshadowed by all the technical issues with the recording.

As a change of pace, I tried "Gimme Shelter" from the Rolling Stones Forty Licks CD. I have heard this live in concert and it left a lasting impression on me. The Stones used a very wide, winding stage for this outdoor performance, and the separation of the instruments was very apparent as well as the increasing volume as the piece started to build. Jagger' s vocal started with him walking/ running from one end of the stage to the other and this produced a very powerful visual as well as aural image. The PF IXs maybe bring the guitars in this track up too close for some, but to me, they reveal all the visceral power of the live presentation of this classic song, as few headphones have done in my experience.

It probably isn't fair to these two headphones to give impressions with only a few hours listening time, and not having a chance to make changes to my setup, such as a change in the DAC, but I wanted to post something before I also had to consider with my impressions that my brain had just adjusted to their sound. What I think I can say confidently though, is that as you would hope and expect at their price, they both seem from my memory to be vastly superior to a mid-priced headphone like the Sennheiser IE8s. Compared to my AT-3000ANVs? That is a different matter as the three are very different. The ATs have a deeper soundstage than either of the FADs, which is noticeable for music that features choir and orchestra, for example. The ATs which produce great detail, have less than either of the FADs. I used a densely layered piece of music, Faure's Requiem to test this. The treble of the AT-3000ANVs is also slightly easier on the ears for those sensitive to treble, which is noticeable with soprano voices and strings in particular. This may partially be an issue of using IEMs vs full size headphones,my setup etc.

To summarize, I am very happy with my purchase of the PF IXs, which is the one that I was most concerned about not liking, and I need to give the FI-BA-SS some equal time before posting impressions of it other than my comment about how it handles poor recordings.
post #1844 of 4523
Your thoughts on the IX echo my experiences. I always find it wonderful how they pick out details deep within the acoustic that whilst is there with other headphones just does not have the palpable sense of being there that the IX's portray.

I tend to disagree with others here when they say these are best with only certain types of music. Though classical is my first love these seem to work with everything from rock and roll to electronic, are they the best for those, no but they give such a sense of occasion and immersion I can forgive what they lack with those genre's

Just as an aside, not sure if you have purchased anything from HDTT but they do something magical with old classical recordings when they convert to digital, even when they record from an old LP the results are beautiful and if you love classical I really recommend you have a look at what they have. One can feel the care and attention taken in the process of transposing tape or LP to digital.
post #1845 of 4523
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post


Just as an aside, not sure if you have purchased anything from HDTT but they do something magical with old classical recordings when they convert to digital, even when they record from an old LP the results are beautiful and if you love classical I really recommend you have a look at what they have. One can feel the care and attention taken in the process of transposing tape or LP to digital.

I purchase most of my classical music from HD Tracks and I also used to subscribe to the B&W hi Rez site. The Oistrach CD came from Deutsche Grammophon's 111th Anniversary CD set, where some old recordings, such as the 1976 Cotrubas/Domingo/Kleiner version of La Traviata sound great, and stand up to modern versions, while some, like the Oistrach Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto sound like the orchestra was recorded in a phone booth.
Edited by Ridleyguy - 5/22/13 at 9:32am
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Final Audio Design Impressions and Discussion Thread