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I think with all these LCD 2 comparisons that people need to be reminded that the MD's are merely voiced similarly. Other than that they really share no other similarities. I think people who haven't heard both get a bit misled by the constant comparisons.

 

IMO the LCD 2's are on a whole other level compared to the MD's. They have a much more open and detailed sound and they're more tonally rich than the MD's. Plus there's the bass which goes very deep.

post #5447 of 6388

^^ I would disagree here. I just spent four days with both. The latest build of the MD and the lcd2.2. The comparison goes deeper than just voicing. But the MD also at times reminds me of the he500, especially in the treble region. The point is you get a $300 hp the performs like a much more expensive one. Personally, I'm all about "value" these days and it's difficult for me to find a better value than what the MD offers. 

 

Besides the price advantage, I also like the fact that the MD weighs less and is appreciably more comfortable. 

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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

I think with all these LCD 2 comparisons that people need to be reminded that the MD's are merely voiced similarly. Other than that they really share no other similarities. I think people who haven't heard both get a bit misled by the constant comparisons.

 

IMO the LCD 2's are on a whole other level compared to the MD's. They have a much more open and detailed sound and they're more tonally rich than the MD's. Plus there's the bass which goes very deep.

+1 on that. I can understand them being a great value compared to the LCD-2, but not a great headphone overall.

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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

I think with all these LCD 2 comparisons that people need to be reminded that the MD's are merely voiced similarly. Other than that they really share no other similarities. I think people who haven't heard both get a bit misled by the constant comparisons.

 

IMO the LCD 2's are on a whole other level compared to the MD's. They have a much more open and detailed sound and they're more tonally rich than the MD's. Plus there's the bass which goes very deep.

I just cannot resist to completely agree with you. I am not a big fan of LCD 2 but they are in a completely different league compared to MD. 

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So has anybody who owns the MDs listened to LFF's Paradox for an extended period of time? I wouldn't mind reading a comparison between the two (I've read some old comparisons, but they aren't using the latest incarnation of the MD with Alpha Pads) for the sake of curiosity. I've read some comments in which the Paradox are in the same ballpark as SR-009s, but I've never heard the Stax, so....anyways, I may pick up an Aune T1 soon, unless somebody can persuade me that something else in its price range makes better-sounding babies with the MDs.


Edited by doublea71 - 4/29/13 at 5:22am
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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

I think with all these LCD 2 comparisons that people need to be reminded that the MD's are merely voiced similarly. Other than that they really share no other similarities. I think people who haven't heard both get a bit misled by the constant comparisons.

IMO the LCD 2's are on a whole other level compared to the MD's. They have a much more open and detailed sound and they're more tonally rich than the MD's. Plus there's the bass which goes very deep.

That's exactly how I feel. Similar voicing, different levels of refinement. They don't even sound alike to me.
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So has anybody who owns the MDs listened to LFF's Paradox for an extended period of time? I wouldn't mind reading a comparison between the two (I've read some old comparisons, but they aren't using the latest incarnation of the MD with Alpha Pads) for the sake of curiosity. I've read some comments in which the Paradox are in the same ballpark as SR-009s, but I've never heard the Stax, so....anyways, I may pick up an Aune T1 soon, unless somebody can persuade me that something else in its price range makes better-sounding babies with the MDs.

 

Please show me the comments, I'd love to see who is ignorant enough to think that the Paradox is anywhere near the SR-009. I've heard the Paradox, never owned it, but heard it for a few days and it was nothing like my experience with the SR-009. Comparing the two is a futile attempt in itself (i.e Open vs Closed).

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Please show me the comments, I'd love to see who is ignorant enough to think that the Paradox is anywhere near the SR-009. I've heard the Paradox, never owned it, but heard it for a few days and it was nothing like my experience with the SR-009. Comparing the two is a futile attempt in itself (i.e Open vs Closed).

What would you compare it to, then? I haven't heard them, and even though I've been looking at purchasing a pair I've been frustrated by the giant hype train behind the product.

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What would you compare it to, then? I haven't heard them, and even though I've been looking at purchasing a pair I've been frustrated by the giant hype train behind the product.

 

Are you talking about the Paradox or SR-009, because if you are talking about the latter... I would say other STAX and Hi-End dynamic headphones. 

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What would you compare it to, then? I haven't heard them, and even though I've been looking at purchasing a pair I've been frustrated by the giant hype train behind the product.

 

I would compare them to ... ermmm.. the Mad Dogs?! :-p

Actually I don't have them but already contacted LFF as I want to see how his other color options look like. Once I make a decision (and sell a couple of things...) I'll buy them too. BUT I'm not expecting drastic differences between both LFFs and CURRENT Mad Dogs... (which is probably why I have hold off for so long).

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Originally Posted by doublea71 View Post

So has anybody who owns the MDs listened to LFF's Paradox for an extended period of time? I wouldn't mind reading a comparison between the two (I've read some old comparisons, but they aren't using the latest incarnation of the MD with Alpha Pads) for the sake of curiosity. I've read some comments in which the Paradox are in the same ballpark as SR-009s, but I've never heard the Stax, so....anyways, I may pick up an Aune T1 soon, unless somebody can persuade me that something else in its price range makes better-sounding babies with the MDs.

 

 

eek.gif  Never....

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Posts number 9 and 13 (especially 13). I did a google search for any Paradox/Mad Dogs comparisons and this turned up. I didn't say that I believed it, but I think we all know how easily lofty comparisons are tossed around on audio forums, sort of like the word 'genius'...

 

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/fostex-t50rp-headphone.294218/


Edited by doublea71 - 4/29/13 at 10:47am
post #5458 of 6388
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Are you talking about the Paradox or SR-009, because if you are talking about the latter... I would say other STAX and Hi-End dynamic headphones. 

No, I meant the Paradox. I've heard the SR009.

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No, I meant the Paradox. I've heard the SR009.

 

In that case, the most direct comparison would be Smeggy's Thunderpants. I would also say, the Mad Dogs are a good comparison, as well as a pair of Darth Beyers. They are priced similarly to many higher end closed headphones such as the D7000 etc, so that would be a fair comparison as well. Technically, the LCD-2 and HE-500 would be a good comparison as well, but of coarse closed vs open would need to be taken into account. 

post #5460 of 6388

I put up a comparison between the Paradox (I used to own a pair, No. 18, when they still used socks to help keep the pads on) and my MD + dog pads a while back. While I was unable to do a direct comparison with the alpha pads, I think Dan has given us enough information about the changes brought by the new pads that some decent assumptions could be made about how the Paradox and MD + alpha pads would compare if one were going off my original comparison.

 

The most noticeable difference between the two headphones at the time was that the Paradox seemed to have more output in the 40-300Hz range or so. Yes, my Paradox sounded "thicker" and bassier than my MDs. I'd prefer something in-between the two, honestly. Since the alpha pads didn't change much in that area, those differences should still stand. I also thought the Paradox sounded a bit more refined overall, but that wouldn't surprise me given the additional cost and amount of time Luis reportedly puts into each Paradox (different business models, really). Other than that, they sounded surprisingly similar. How they compare with headphones like the LCD2/3 or SR-009, I have no idea.

 

I can't say everyone will experience the same, though I do feel like some exaggerate the differences between the two headphones. Dan tested my unit because I was surprised by what I heard in my original comparison, and it checked out (he was even kind enough to send me personal measurements of my pair, and they were very similar to his published measurements). I can only assumed the Paradox I had checked out as well, and Luis assured me that even the new pad mounting scheme on the Paradox (without socks) had very minor impacts on the sound of newer units at the time. I do want to note that I've read more reports on sound variability in the Mad Dogs units (not counting new revision) than I have heard about the Paradox. 

 

Anyway, that's my thoughts on the matter, and your experiences might be totally different. I'm a fan of both products overall and don't think you can go wrong with either! Best thing to do is find a way to compare them yourself.

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