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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I agree. I wasnt 'thrilled' with the ESP 950 at first. After about a day, I feel it belongs just under the LCD2.


If you were not thrilled I will assume you are using the stock Koss amp. Get rid of that for a Stax and you are into a whole new world.

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First, you didn't like them, now you do?

"like" as in what there used for. I didn't like them for music period, but I loved them for gaming [not postioning or what ever] but for teh comfort the isolation and the sound stage. For my Rpgs there where nice, again the dark sound sig balanced out the overlly bright Thin sound of my Wii U. SO I still don't want to use them for listening to music, but rather I;d like to have em for use with my Wii U and other Nintendo Consoule Gaming! But I'm going to wait a WHILE b4 I get them again! 

 

But the comofort and isolation are what I miss the most! [when I game] 

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

"like" as in what there used for. I didn't like them for music period, but I loved them for gaming [not postioning or what ever] but for teh comfort the isolation and the sound stage. For my Rpgs there where nice, again the dark sound sig balanced out the overlly bright Thin sound of my Wii U. SO I still don't want to use them for listening to music, but rather I;d like to have em for use with my Wii U and other Nintendo Consoule Gaming! But I'm going to wait a WHILE b4 I get them again! 

 

But the comofort and isolation are what I miss the most! [when I game] 

 

What headphones did you like better for music then?

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What headphones did you like better for music then?

Audio Technica  w1000x, and I didn't hate Mad dogs  for music. For music they where neutral alibeit dark, but I wanted a Neutral yet bright closed can. So for my music tastes the Mad DOgs where to dark and the mids where to thick [I used a Hybrid Tube at the time] so for the set up I had the mad dogs did not fit my music needs. The W1000x is brighter an pairs better with my hybrid tube than the mad dog, which is why I use the w1000x for music, that said the w1000x does not pair well with my Wii U, as for gamingit's not as comfy as I'd like and the ioslation is kinda bleh

in addition the wii u has overly bright thing sound out of the game pad [since I'm forced to use game pad for voice chat]

 

Non the less for gaming Mad Dogs me gusta xD

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If you were not thrilled I will assume you are using the stock Koss amp. Get rid of that for a Stax and you are into a whole new world.

I wasn't thrilled and now I am. I'm still using the same amp. Called getting acclimated to the specific signature.

I'm sure a stax amp will be better, but a whole new world is just ridiculous. No amp changes have EVER made me feel that it elevated a headphone so much, other than those very hard to drive headphones not being driven properly, and that was basically just the HE-4 that changed enough for me to be like "okay".
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^^ Just wanted to let you know MLE, that Dan has "retuned" my MD's and brought them up to spec to the current build since you listened to them. There is an appreciable amount of weight added to the bass frequency without any loss of the linear quality. The bass is just beautiful and continues to close the gap with the audiophile bass heavy hitter, the lcd2. If you looking for the visceral impact and to "feel" the bass, the MD will deliver. Wow Dan...just wow. eek.gif

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I wasn't thrilled and now I am. I'm still using the same amp. Called getting acclimated to the specific signature.

I'm sure a stax amp will be better, but a whole new world is just ridiculous. No amp changes have EVER made me feel that it elevated a headphone so much, other than those very hard to drive headphones not being driven properly, and that was basically just the HE-4 that changed enough for me to be like "okay".


Ah Ok. It sounds like you are new to the 950 then. By all means no need to go rushing into anything. Although Stax amps are  cheap on the used market now so if you run into a deal it might be an idea to squirrel one away for future use. :) The stock Koss amp is really not the most impressive piece of electronics I've ever encountered and with 'stats particularly that one you need to not look at it so much as an amp but as a component of the headphone itself, rather part of the driver. As such the amp can indeed make a world of diff.

 

 The only phones I regret getting rid of are the 950's. I figured that if I ever wanted another pair I could pick them up used cheap.  How wrong can you get? (insert emoticon of hand hitting forehead here).

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^^ Just wanted to let you know MLE, that Dan has "retuned" my MD's and brought them up to spec to the current build since you listened to them. There is an appreciable amount of weight added to the bass frequency without any loss of the linear quality. The bass is just beautiful and continues to close the gap with the audiophile bass heavy hitter, the lcd2. If you looking for the visceral impact and to "feel" the bass, the MD will deliver. Wow Dan...just wow. eek.gif

 

How many different builds/revisions are there?

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^^ I don't have an official count. I understand that some people will take issue with Dan rolling out so many revisions. But in fairness he is simply trying to deliver the best product possible...not that I'm speaking for him in any way. 

 

But take the example of Intel. Speculation is that they could have skipped MANY of the incremental cpu upgrades and delivered a product that jumped a few generations all at once. But in an effort to maximize their profits, they rolled out the updates very slowly. Get where  I'm going? 

 

I respect that Dan tries to give his best, period. 

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^^ I don't have an official count. I understand that some people will take issue with Dan rolling out so many revisions. But in fairness he is simply trying to deliver the best product possible...not that I'm speaking for him in any way. 

 

But take the example of Intel. Speculation is that they could have skipped MANY of the incremental cpu upgrades and delivered a product that jumped a few generations all at once. But in an effort to maximize their profits, they rolled out the updates very slowly. Get where  I'm going? 

 

I respect that Dan tries to give his best, period. 


Talk about your bad example there.

 

You should expect Dan to continue working on the product and making tuning revisions. This is a limited niche market which demands continued development (from the customer no less)

 

Intel and Microsloth (Apple's in there too) are responsible to their shareholders and are well aware of the class actions in the 80's where shareholders took companies to court over not maximizing profits.

 

From what I have seen Mr Speakers does not seem to be interested in squeezing every last cent from the end userksc75smile.gif

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

^^ Just wanted to let you know MLE, that Dan has "retuned" my MD's and brought them up to spec to the current build since you listened to them. There is an appreciable amount of weight added to the bass frequency without any loss of the linear quality. The bass is just beautiful and continues to close the gap with the audiophile bass heavy hitter, the lcd2. If you looking for the visceral impact and to "feel" the bass, the MD will deliver. Wow Dan...just wow. eek.gif

  good to hear, has the bass tightened up and come a little more forward in this revison? 

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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post


Talk about your bad example there.

 

You should expect Dan to continue working on the product and making tuning revisions. This is a limited niche market which demands continued development (from the customer no less)

 

Intel and Microsloth (Apple's in there too) are responsible to their shareholders and are well aware of the class actions in the 80's where shareholders took companies to court over not maximizing profits.

 

From what I have seen Mr Speakers does not seem to be interested in squeezing every last cent from the end userksc75smile.gif

 

Uhm...that's what I said. 

post #5413 of 6388

Clemmaster,

 

I imagine that 'lots of marketing' clouds many retail products.  IMO, access to personal experience is the key to any ownership proposition.  Enter Headfi Meets or dealers or should you live in a place without those accessibilities, 30 day trials.  (Reading about technical aspects can narrow the field, but it still doesn't give you all you need.)  Retail products without marketing may find a niche and as such survive, but I think that is the exception, not the rule.  Many a fine product have perished for lack of marketing-it is after all a basic business ethos.  I don't believe that the lack of it, nor the addition of it, has a baring on whether or not a product is right for you, or whether or not the purveyor should be trusted.  it has simply made you aware of a possibility you may not have known about.


Edited by FredSD - 4/28/13 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

^^ Just wanted to let you know MLE, that Dan has "retuned" my MD's and brought them up to spec to the current build since you listened to them. There is an appreciable amount of weight added to the bass frequency without any loss of the linear quality. The bass is just beautiful and continues to close the gap with the audiophile bass heavy hitter, the lcd2. If you looking for the visceral impact and to "feel" the bass, the MD will deliver. Wow Dan...just wow. eek.gif

Been about two weeks since I read this thread.
Is the revision being mentioned here the revision released with the alpha pads, or a newer revision post alpha pads?
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Does anybody use these with classical/soundtracks?  Are they decent with these genres?

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