good to know and with the mod on the classic can it play flac? also how would you think the new fiio x3 that is comming out in june compare to the classic and the cowon z2?
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Quote:Rockboxed, the Classic can do FLAC all day long, and has the space for it, too. However, there are some major cautions:
The newest (7th-gen) Classic cannot be Rockboxed due to upped security built into it; It also has a new DAC that reportedly sounds less accurate and a bit grainy compared to the old Wolfson unit.
In addition, there may be some advantages to the FiiO because it's been designed with direct feedback from the Head-Fi community and has been built to higher SQ standards than the Classic (especially the current model). However, I can't comment directly as I haven't heard it.
The Cowon is a great device from a hardware standpoint right out of the box and sounds like no other player at its price point, but it runs on an old version of Android that isn't really up to current standards. And if you're in the US, dealing with Jet Audio (their distributor) is ALWAYS a pain.
Don't be afraid to check out more niche options, too.
EDIT: X3 is currently in production
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The X3 is in production now...post #4459 of 61323/22/13 at 6:14am- ssrock64
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Quote:The iPod classic 6th and 7th generation can in fact be rockboxed, you just have to put emcore loader on them first. Here's a tutorial: www.head-fi.org/t/532426/ipod-classic-rockbox-its-happeningOriginally Posted by ssrock64
Rockboxed, the Classic can do FLAC all day long, and has the space for it, too. However, there are some major cautions:
The newest (7th-gen) Classic cannot be Rockboxed due to upped security built into it; It also has a new DAC that reportedly sounds less accurate and a bit grainy compared to the old Wolfson unit.
In addition, there may be some advantages to the FiiO because it's been designed with direct feedback from the Head-Fi community and has been built to higher SQ standards than the Classic (especially the current model). However, I can't comment directly as I haven't heard it.
The Cowon is a great device from a hardware standpoint right out of the box and sounds like no other player at its price point, but it runs on an old version of Android that isn't really up to current standards. And if you're in the US, dealing with Jet Audio (their distributor) is ALWAYS a pain.
Don't be afraid to check out more niche options, too.
EDIT: X3 is currently in production
Additionally, I actually own an iPod classic, and I can say that the DAC in it sounds perfectly fine. The DAC on board the iPod has fared very well against the other DACs I've heard under the $100 price point.post #4461 of 61323/22/13 at 9:37am- ssrock64
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Quote:Originally Posted by mechgamer123
The iPod classic 6th and 7th generation can in fact be rockboxed, you just have to put emcore loader on them first. Here's a tutorial: www.head-fi.org/t/532426/ipod-classic-rockbox-its-happening
Additionally, I actually own an iPod classic, and I can say that the DAC in it sounds perfectly fine. The DAC on board the iPod has fared very well against the other DACs I've heard under the $100 price point.I much prefer the old DAC; I guess I'm behind the curve on the Rockbox news.
Note to self: fact-check posts before making them.
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Help with budget open headphones to complement the Mad Dogs
Ok, I've had my Mad Dogs for a little over a week and absolutely love them. I've got about 15 hours of listening in with them connected to the Magni and they really do sound great. The isolation is perfect for me to listen while my wife has the TV on or is doing something else. I can really get into the music without bothering her.
Last night I was going through my taxes one last time and realized that I will owe less than I thought so now I have some "found" money to spend on fun stuff instead of giving to Uncle Sam
I'm thinking that instead of getting another pair of closed headphones, it would be nice to have some open headphones that I can use when I'm alone in the room. My budget is probably under $250 (under $200 even better) and if they didn't absolutely need an outboard amp to get decent sound that would be a plus. I guess I'm looking for something that can complement the sound of the Mad Dogs, but in an open design.
What suggestions do you guys have?
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^^ Hmm...spend $300 and get the hd600 from razordogdeals NIB. Also consider the audio technica ath-ad700.
post #4464 of 61323/22/13 at 2:22pmthanks for all your ideas and input :) I am looking for the best DAP for me around the $400 price range so far it sounds like a choice between the cowon z2 and the fiios x3 but all other options are welcome like I said before I listen to all types of music but my main music is rock,county and pop
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or spend a little more and get the HD650/HE-400, haha. This place = evil.
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Quote:Huh. I haven't rockboxed my 6g as I use it in my car stereo, and rockboxing breaks that compatibility. I have however rockboxed a 5G 30GB. However, it had some HDD issues, and I was only able to copy about 2 songs onto it. I didn't notice any night and day differences between the two DACs, but then again I didn't do any extensive A/B testing though. Just quick "how do both of these sound going into my O2 and out to my HD600s" type of test.
Quote:Hmm, I'm doubtful that the AD700 will sound as good as the MD, and I actually found the overall sound of the MD to be superior to the HD600.
Quote:Originally Posted by ruleof72
Help with budget open headphones to complement the Mad Dogs
Ok, I've had my Mad Dogs for a little over a week and absolutely love them. I've got about 15 hours of listening in with them connected to the Magni and they really do sound great. The isolation is perfect for me to listen while my wife has the TV on or is doing something else. I can really get into the music without bothering her.
Last night I was going through my taxes one last time and realized that I will owe less than I thought so now I have some "found" money to spend on fun stuff instead of giving to Uncle Sam
I'm thinking that instead of getting another pair of closed headphones, it would be nice to have some open headphones that I can use when I'm alone in the room. My budget is probably under $250 (under $200 even better) and if they didn't absolutely need an outboard amp to get decent sound that would be a plus. I guess I'm looking for something that can complement the sound of the Mad Dogs, but in an open design.
What suggestions do you guys have?
See my post above to Matt regarding my opinions on the HD600 and AD700... Maybe save up your money for something from HifiMan?

Or just buy another set of Mad Dogs!
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Quote:Originally Posted by ruleof72
Help with budget open headphones to complement the Mad Dogs
Ok, I've had my Mad Dogs for a little over a week and absolutely love them. I've got about 15 hours of listening in with them connected to the Magni and they really do sound great. The isolation is perfect for me to listen while my wife has the TV on or is doing something else. I can really get into the music without bothering her.
Last night I was going through my taxes one last time and realized that I will owe less than I thought so now I have some "found" money to spend on fun stuff instead of giving to Uncle Sam
I'm thinking that instead of getting another pair of closed headphones, it would be nice to have some open headphones that I can use when I'm alone in the room. My budget is probably under $250 (under $200 even better) and if they didn't absolutely need an outboard amp to get decent sound that would be a plus. I guess I'm looking for something that can complement the sound of the Mad Dogs, but in an open design.
What suggestions do you guys have?
If you're looking to get a similar sound in an open can, my only real recommendation is the HD650. It's possible to find a used HD650 for $250 or less, especially if you don't mind one with a little bit of the paint chipping (that's what I did). If you're looking for something you could also use for an alternative sound signature, then Grado could be a decent alternative.
post #4468 of 61323/22/13 at 4:11pmWill it hurt anything to leave the Magni on constantly while not in use?post #4469 of 61323/22/13 at 4:52pm- disastermouse
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Would you guys say the Mad Dogs are the most comfortable planars available? I'll be moving in with my girlfriend in the summer and may need something closed and comfy because we're on different schedules. I've already spent my money in my head on so many things - an iFi iUSB and HRT Music Streamer HD....or a Centrance Hi-Fi M8 (but if I get THAT, I HAVE to get Mad Dogs!)...
This place...my wallet softly weeps...post #4470 of 61323/22/13 at 4:59pm- MattTCG
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^^ Most comfortable ortho? Yes.
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