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post #3916 of 6388

Got today my Mad Dogs !

using Aune T1 to drive 'em.

they have the same detail and resolution of the HE-400 i had, but the bass is much more as it should be (less!)

post #3917 of 6388
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

It seems that person liked them at home with their own gear.  Then some how didn't like them at a meet with other gear they don't even ownblink.gif  Influence sure does play a big role on some people.  

 

Meets are not the optimal place to judge gear.  It's meant to give you an idea on what you would try at home in your setup - if possible.  this is the first I've heard someone liking something at home.  then not liking it at a meet.  Funny..

Not when you bring your set-up to the meet with you ;)

post #3918 of 6388
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Not when you bring your set-up to the meet with you ;)

Did that person bring their setup to the meet?

 

If your able to bring your setup with you.  Most do not.  They come to hear others and other stuff they have on short list and things they most likely won't pay for.  

post #3919 of 6388

So you guys would say the only real step up from the Mad Dogs are a STAX(not happening) or a Hifiman HE-6 with a speaker amp? Now what speaker amp?

post #3920 of 6388

Honestly, it's all down to preference, as it goes for any headphone. What qualities of the MD do you want to extrapolate onto a hypothetical upgrade? The detail and neutrality the alpha pads brought? The warmish/dark signature that hearken the dog pads? Do you love the MD but have found you wish that X was a little more emphasized? Do you care about soundstage? 

 

I say this because some feel that anywhere from the HE-400 to STAX is an upgrade. When you try out new headphones, it's a data point among all the other data points that reveal what your preferences are. That's why some people enjoy the journey; the more headphones you try, the more clearly defined your dream sound is. It's not so clear cut.

 

I personally feel that I'd like to elevate some of the frequencies just a tinge with an open presentation while still maintaining that orthodynamic sound, neutrality and detail, so I'm looking towards the HE-500's as an upgrade. But MattTCG and Malveaux see them on even ground. It's subjective.


Edited by vaed - 3/4/13 at 11:28am
post #3921 of 6388
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Originally Posted by vaed View Post

Honestly, it's all down to preference, as it goes for any headphone. What qualities of the MD do you want to extrapolate onto a hypothetical upgrade? The detail and neutrality the alpha pads brought? The warmish/dark signature that hearken the dog pads? Do you love the MD but have found you wish that X was a little more emphasized? Do you care about soundstage? 

 

I say this because some feel that anywhere from the HE-400 to STAX is an upgrade. When you try out new headphones, it's a data point among all the other data points that reveal what your preferences are. That's why some people enjoy the journey; the more headphones you try, the more clearly defined your dream sound is. It's not so clear cut.

 

I personally feel that I'd like to elevate some of the frequencies just a tinge with an open presentation while still maintaining that orthodynamic sound, neutrality and detail, so I'm looking towards the HE-500's.

Thanks, I see what your sayingredface.gif

post #3922 of 6388
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

So you guys would say the only real step up from the Mad Dogs are a STAX(not happening) or a Hifiman HE-6 with a speaker amp? Now what speaker amp?

LCD-3, HE-6 and HD800 are all a step-up.

 

And T1 and HE-500 sideway-ish-up.

 

Preference dependent, ymmv, etc etc.

post #3923 of 6388
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Originally Posted by vaed View Post

Honestly, it's all down to preference, as it goes for any headphone. What qualities of the MD do you want to extrapolate onto a hypothetical upgrade? The detail and neutrality the alpha pads brought? The warmish/dark signature that hearken the dog pads? Do you love the MD but have found you wish that X was a little more emphasized? Do you care about soundstage? 

 

I say this because some feel that anywhere from the HE-400 to STAX is an upgrade. When you try out new headphones, it's a data point among all the other data points that reveal what your preferences are. That's why some people enjoy the journey; the more headphones you try, the more clearly defined your dream sound is. It's not so clear cut.

 

I personally feel that I'd like to elevate some of the frequencies just a tinge with an open presentation while still maintaining that orthodynamic sound, neutrality and detail, so I'm looking towards the HE-500's as an upgrade. But MattTCG and Malveaux see them on even ground. It's subjective.

 

I'd agree with this as well. In fact, some of the headphones in the same price range as the Mad Dogs (HD600, HD650) may also be considered an upgrade depending on the listener.

 

The Mad Dogs are good, but I think... that only applies for their price bracket. If they were offered at $500 or more, then I'd seriously think about other headphones.

post #3924 of 6388
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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post

 

I'd agree with this as well. In fact, some of the headphones in the same price range as the Mad Dogs (HD600, HD650) may also be considered an upgrade depending on the listener.

 

The Mad Dogs are good, but I think... that only applies for their price bracket. If they were offered at $500 or more, then I'd seriously think about other headphones.


Spot on.  I really, really love my mad dogs.  There are a number of headphones that could be considered an upgrade.  There is a much smaller number that would be considered a worthwhile upgrade, and that list varies with each person.  For me, the HE400 is not worth the upgrade, the HE500 is a more refined sounding headphone, but I don't like the sound signature as well.  Stax are intriguing, but ultimately out of my reasonable reach for now.  The LCD2 is a more refined, arguably "better" headphone, but not enough better to be worth the price multiple.  The HE6 through a little tripath style amp from the speaker taps was pretty amazing - and cool because you get this great sound running a $1K +/- headphone out of a $150 speaker amp.  And last, for me, the HD650 give the Mad Dogs a solid run for the money at a similar price (ok, that's for used HD650's in decent condition).  - Rereading my post, I think I'm beginning to repeat myself... (you can say that again ; - )

post #3925 of 6388
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

LCD-3, HE-6 and HD800 are all a step-up.

 

And T1 and HE-500 sideway-ish-up.

 

Preference dependent, ymmv, etc etc.

Just curious (I don't want to start a whole debate, because obviously it's all subjective), why do you rank the T1 so low to be only a side-step to the MD and HE500? I use mine for mastering and can't say it's one of my favorite headphones, but I still find it miles away from the MD in terms of detail retrieval and sonic accuracy.

post #3926 of 6388
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post


Spot on.  I really, really love my mad dogs.  There are a number of headphones that could be considered an upgrade.  There is a much smaller number that would be considered a worthwhile upgrade, and that list varies with each person.  For me, the HE400 is not worth the upgrade, the HE500 is a more refined sounding headphone, but I don't like the sound signature as well.  Stax are intriguing, but ultimately out of my reasonable reach for now.  The LCD2 is a more refined, arguably "better" headphone, but not enough better to be worth the price multiple.  The HE6 through a little tripath style amp from the speaker taps was pretty amazing - and cool because you get this great sound running a $1K +/- headphone out of a $150 speaker amp.  And last, for me, the HD650 give the Mad Dogs a solid run for the money at a similar price (ok, that's for used HD650's in decent condition).  - Rereading my post, I think I'm beginning to repeat myself... (you can say that again ; - )

 

Well, I understand, though.

 

Not to take away from Dan. He made an excellent headphone, and offered it at a very good price.

 

But I think that's the draw of the Mad Dog. They're excellent... for the price. It's their value, not their sound quality. And personally, I see no wrong in getting a cheaper headphone and amping it to match a higher-end headphone. That's the beauty of the game. Just like with photography, I can match a $1000 lens with a $10 lens in terms of bokeh, composition, and maybe color representation as well... after some adjustments. It won't be exactly the same, but it'll be close, and it's only for a fraction of the price.


Seriously, if sound was the only variable to consider, then I'd think everyone could grab themselves and Orpheus rig and be done with it. smily_headphones1.gif

post #3927 of 6388

There aren't too many improvements for me when you consider I'm competing with the fan noise of my Antec-900 case 75% of the time that I am listening to music at home.  If there are better options available, they need to have great isolation.  Until I convert my walk-in closet to a sound proof listening station, I'm going to pass on open headphones for now.

post #3928 of 6388
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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post

Just curious (I don't want to start a whole debate, because obviously it's all subjective), why do you rank the T1 so low to be only a side-step to the MD and HE500? I use mine for mastering and can't say it's one of my favorite headphones, but I still find it miles away from the MD in terms of detail retrieval and sonic accuracy.

Because the T1 isn't an HD800. And that is its problem.

 

The T1 has traits of other cans with good detail retrieval, however while being a fun-ish headphone, I find it to be mediocre overall.

post #3929 of 6388
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Originally Posted by sonitus mirus View Post

There aren't too many improvements for me when you consider I'm competing with the fan noise of my Antec-900 case 75% of the time that I am listening to music at home.  If there are better options available, they need to have great isolation.  Until I convert my walk-in closet to a sound proof listening station, I'm going to pass on open headphones for now.

 

If you need closed alternatives, try the ATH-W3000ANV, or W5000, or even the W1000X.

 

I haven't heard the other two to give any opinion, but the W3000ANV is a very worthy upgrade... especially if you value midrange.

 

If you can afford higher, then I think Fostex TH900 is the ultimate closed headphone.

post #3930 of 6388
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post


Spot on.  I really, really love my mad dogs.  There are a number of headphones that could be considered an upgrade.  There is a much smaller number that would be considered a worthwhile upgrade, and that list varies with each person.  For me, the HE400 is not worth the upgrade, the HE500 is a more refined sounding headphone, but I don't like the sound signature as well.  Stax are intriguing, but ultimately out of my reasonable reach for now.  The LCD2 is a more refined, arguably "better" headphone, but not enough better to be worth the price multiple.  The HE6 through a little tripath style amp from the speaker taps was pretty amazing - and cool because you get this great sound running a $1K +/- headphone out of a $150 speaker amp.  And last, for me, the HD650 give the Mad Dogs a solid run for the money at a similar price (ok, that's for used HD650's in decent condition).  - Rereading my post, I think I'm beginning to repeat myself... (you can say that again ; - )

The Paradox, maybe?

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