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It all comes down to the performance you're willing to live with.  Once you reach the point where you you start to question if it's worth the price of moving up, you're getting less return for your dollar than you're willing to live with.  I've tried better headphones than the Mad Dogs, but I'm happy with what the give me at this price.  I need closed headphones so I'm in a really good place with the Mad Dogs.

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OK,

 

So how do you know when you're entering the Law of diminished returns?  Is it the same for everyone across the board, or is it different for each person.  How do you know?

Others covered this above, but my 2 cents - Meets are a great tool, otherwise buying and selling in the FS forums.  I listened to a bunch of high end gear at the SF Bay meet.  There were a couple of rigs that might have me wanting to step up.  The HE6 through a nice little tripath speaker amp, through speaker outputs, the HD650 as a compliment to the MD's, and maybe a nice desktop amp down the road a ways.  I got to listen to a nice selection of LCD2 and LCD3, and stax 002, 007, 009 through one of Eddie Current's brilliant tube amps.  Wonderful, but not (yet) wonderful enough to be worth the price or entry (most of the pieces are worth more than my '03 PT Cruiser...).

 

Basically, when you wouldn't pay that much to get that little bit, you are there.  Or when you say to yourself "I paid how much for this?  and this is all I get?", you are there.  For me, when I downgraded from a D7000 and a high end headroom UDA and desktop power supply to a Pico Slim and DT1350's and didn't miss all that much, I knew I'd exceeded my sweet spot.  Trading off the DT1350's for the MD's and hearing what they do, has maybe found my sweet spot.

 

Oh, and if you drive something even worse than an '03 PT Cruiser, and you think you should dump the HE6 rig for a Stax 009 / Eddie Current rig, you may just have an issue or two...


Edited by aamefford - 3/2/13 at 10:20am
post #3873 of 6388

Well today is when I see if the MDs are my sweet spot. Going to a local meet here in Portland and there should be some purty nice gear there. I don't think anyone is bringing LCD-3 but there will be some LCD-2 to compare with. 

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OK,

 

So how do you know when you're entering the Law of diminished returns?  Is it the same for everyone across the board, or is it different for each person.  How do you know?

 

My point of diminishing returns is directly proportional to my mortgage payments... 

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My point of diminishing returns is directly proportional to my mortgage payments... 

 

 

Heck yeah - Me to in that case.

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Others covered this above, but my 2 cents - Meets are a great tool, otherwise buying and selling in the FS forums.  I listened to a bunch of high end gear at the SF Bay meet.  There were a couple of rigs that might have me wanting to step up.  The HE6 through a nice little tripath speaker amp, through speaker outputs, the HD650 as a compliment to the MD's, and maybe a nice desktop amp down the road a ways.  I got to listen to a nice selection of LCD2 and LCD3, and stax 002, 007, 009 through one of Eddie Current's brilliant tube amps.  Wonderful, but not (yet) wonderful enough to be worth the price or entry (most of the pieces are worth more than my '03 PT Cruiser...).

 

I just heard a pair of Mad Dogs today at the Austin meet. I liked them a lot. I own a pair of HE400s, and while I do think they are better, I really enjoyed the Mad Dogs. I don't know what pads were on them, but they were comfy regardless.

 

Highly recommended for the price point. Nicely made as well.

post #3877 of 6388
Question for those who've heard the Mad Dogs thru a variety of amps...

How much of a gap would you say is there between a good portable amp like the Leckerton UHA-6S and a more powerful low but budget desk amp like the Magni?

I know it's somewhat subjective and I'm sorta looking at two very differently priced units (tho the whole Schiit DAC/amp stack is $200 which brings it closer to the Leckerton)... But I'm looking at my options in case my AVR doesn't do a satisfactory job with the MDs.

I think the Leckerton unit is capable of about 75mW into 50ohm whereas the Magni would pump out a whole watt @ 50ohm, and I've always read orthos love voltage...

The UHA-6S would obviously be more versatile as far as connectivity etc.
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 I've always read orthos love voltage...

Actually, Orthos love current. not voltage.

post #3879 of 6388
Oops... Pardon my ignorance!
post #3880 of 6388

I can't swear to it, but I am pretty sure that the Leckerton UHA-6S would have plenty of power to drive the Mad Dogs. You can choose from multiple opamps with a wide range of power output. I listened to a lower power model of the 6S today (not with the Mad Dogs) and liked it. It's a nice, clean sounding amp. Much improved my ipads sound via CCK, so it was utilizing the DAC in the UHA-6S.

 

Hope this helps.

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Pretty sure my odac n indeed g3 or millet max hybrid tubes will drive these well. I'm loving the rca clear top 12ua7 i dropped into my g3
post #3882 of 6388

Listened to my Mad Dogs out of a Burson Soloist —> Fostex Signature today at a local meet. Holy crap it sounded great.

post #3883 of 6388
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I think the Leckerton unit is capable of about 75mW into 50ohm whereas the Magni would pump out a whole watt @ 50ohm, and I've always read orthos love voltage...

The UHA-6S would obviously be more versatile as far as connectivity etc.

 

If my calculations are right, 75mW into the Mad Dogs, assuming the sensitivity stays the same as the stock T50RP (98dB/mW), means about 116.7dB, give or take.

 

So it seems to me like the UHA-6S may still struggle a little bit with high-dynamic range music.

 

But of course, if you don't listen to them and expect live music level of volume, then I think the UHA-6S should be enough.


Edited by Bill-P - 3/2/13 at 9:16pm
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If my calculations are right, 75mW into the Mad Dogs, assuming the sensitivity stays the same as the stock T50RP (98dB/mW), means about 116.7dB, give or take.

 

So it seems to me like the UHA-6S may still struggle a little bit with high-dynamic range music.

 

But of course, if you don't listen to them and expect live music level of volume, then I think the UHA-6S should be enough.

 

I'm not sure if Dan has an official efficiency measurement for the new version, but they're certainly less efficient than the stock T50RP.  I believe he estimated them to be 93-94dB/mW.  I kinda think they're more like 92-93.

post #3885 of 6388

after hours of lurking through this thread, i have 2 questions, 1. How effective is eq on the Mad Dogs?  2.What's the best portable amp under $200 for the mad dogs? I listen to all electronic music. Thanks :)

 

PS,budget DACs would be great too 

 

EDIT: also an amp that will work with and ipod touch 4 and ipad 2 


Edited by Nyanman - 3/3/13 at 6:23am
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