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Thanks to everyone for their input. I JUST placed my order. And so the wait begins ... Methinks these next few weeks at work will be quite troublesome. Still trying to decide on what amp to get, though ... Reading a lot here, and leaning toward the C&C BH as mentioned above, but given that I have another set of cans I could use it on too, I'm still not sure.

 

Decisions, decisions ...

post #3557 of 6388

I know that it's only barely hit the streets, but the Asgard 2 at $250 looks to be a nice choice. With the gain switch and pre-amp out for speakers, this is a very versatile and economical option.

 

Mine is on order. biggrin.gif

post #3558 of 6388

Hi-


What exactly is the difference between the stock Fostex's and the Mad dogs? Is it just the leather head strap / earpads / cup?

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^^ Uhm, not quite. The creator of the Maddog's, Dan, has fully modified the cups with materials in a way to give his product a unique and impressive sound signature. With the addition of the Alpha Pads this has become one of the best bargains in the game IMO. 

 

So, to answer your question there is a day and night difference between stock and MD's. 

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^^ Uhm, not quite. The creator of the Maddog's, Dan, has fully modified the cups with materials in a way to give his product a unique and impressive sound signature. With the addition of the Alpha Pads this has become one of the best bargains in the game IMO. 

So, to answer your question there is a day and night difference between stock and MD's. 
That's exactly what harkohark said though lol...you just used more colorful language.
post #3561 of 6388

Not really,

I think he meant modifying the cups like Smeggy did with the Thunderpants.

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That's exactly what harkohark said though lol...you just used more colorful language.

 

My fault. I thought that he didn't realize that the MD is a fully modded hp. 

post #3563 of 6388

^ I don't think he did realize they are modified far beyond the addition of leather pads, headband, etc.

 

The stock T50rp sounds like crap. Modified ones sound really good/great. All with the stock (but damped) plastic cups, and not a wooden cup such as Smeggy does with the Thunderpants.
 

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^ I don't think he did realize they are modified far beyond the addition of leather pads, headband, etc.

 

The stock T50rp sounds like crap. Modified ones sound really good/great. All with the stock (but damped) plastic cups, and not a wooden cup such as Smeggy does with the Thunderpants.
 

Pretty much Mad Dog, Paradox and BMF's. Smeggy is not relevant anymore.

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Are the mad dogs cables any good? How are the cables compare to the he400 stock cables?
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If you decide to go with the MD you won't be disappointed. They are truly impressive. I wished that I'd heard the k550, but I  haven't and so can't give you any comparison. 

 

gL!!

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It's not all that bad, but it does make the Mad Dog overly thick and syrupy... if you are into that.

 

 

I'd agree that O2 is very neutral. E12? Not so much. I have tried E12 with a lot of headphones... and I'm sure you can ask any other E12 owner to see if E12 is a neutral amp. In essence, E12 is probably more neutral than other Fiio amps, but it's very far from transparent... or even clean. There is a very slight emphasis in the lower midrange, and the overall sound is a bit on the mellow side.

 

I'm not against some slight added warmth in order to smooth out the music, but... it was really overly warm and dark to me.

 

And yes, I have tried both amps with other headphones. See here for some impressions:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/649174/review-fiio-e12-comparison-to-c-c-bh-jds-labs-o2-jds-labs-c421

 

I didn't mention the Mad Dog, because I didn't really like the presentation out of either of those amps. I tried E12 with 2 different Mad Dogs (one from Dan's table and one from a different room) to make sure it wasn't just me.

 

Maybe I had a bad seal with the new pads? I don't know, really... but sincerely, I would still recommend Mad Dog to other people looking for a good closed headphone under $300. I really liked it a lot out of the Meridian Explorer. The sound opened up, and it was only lacking a tiny bit of the articulated bass of the LCD-2. Everything else was equal. Mad Dog + Meridian Explorer is still less than the price of a used LCD-2, so I think it's some serious value.

 

 

The C&C BH did a pretty good job. I preferred Output 1 to keep the thick, syrupy mid of the Mad Dog. Switching SF and LF to On helped cleaning the sound for me, and brought the sound signature to something more natural, but the lush/smoothness was retained because I think that's how Mad Dog was originally intended to be.

 

It's not perfect, of course. I think I still prefer the Meridian Explorer... (sorry to sound like a broken record, but it does sound pretty good out of the DAC), but for a portable setup, I'd say C&C BH is the better fit for Mad Dog than other amps.

 

And you can see very clearly I don't rate C&C BH very highly against E12 or O2 for any other headphone. I just think Mad Dog is a special case.

I liked the O2, can't comment on the fiio gear (haven't heard it), and I really did not like the Meridian - while others felt it made them MD's a bit brighter, I felt it just did not do well with them - it lacked the authority, the rich mids and bass control and response of the O2, my iBasso and a few other of the smaller amps I've heard.  I will mention that while the ibasso pb2/db2 setup does well with them, I was more impressed with a few other options (but for my ears, not the meridian)  The Sunrise Project amp was really nice with the MD's, as was, surprisingly, AMB's mini3 high power with the Li-ion battery.  That one was really surprising.

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Man I just can't pull the trigger, I keep going back and forth between these and the k550!

I don't know the k550's, so not much help here.  I am very impressed with the MD's.

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Are the mad dogs cables any good? How are the cables compare to the he400 stock cables?

Yes, but not exciting.  From what Dan mentioned to me at the SF Bay meet, with a very flat and linear impedance vs. frequency curve, the cable will have little audible effect.  The 5' Vmoda cable is the one I use - perfect length, very pliable.  The Stock 10-ish' cable is a nice copper, apparently.

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Man I just can't pull the trigger, I keep going back and forth between these and the k550!

 

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If you decide to go with the MD you won't be disappointed. They are truly impressive. I wished that I'd heard the k550, but I  haven't and so can't give you any comparison. 

 

gL!!

I've heard both at a mini meet.  They have more differences than similarities imo.

 

K550 : Weaker isolation, brighter presentation, nice soundstage, good mids (some hot spots for me), decent bass(rolls off), very portable and easily driven

 

Mad Dogs: Very good isolation, neutral-dark presentation, nice soundstage, very good mids, neutral bass (excellent extension), somewhat portable but higher power requirements

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Check this out:

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-57570720-47/a-new-high-in-$300-audiophile-headphones/

 

 

Nice!! biggrin.gif

 

WOW!   Congrats to Dan!

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