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post #3286 of 6388
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

 

Well, I was away for most of the weekend, so I didn't want to post anything too long winded, but:

 

I have also had these pads now for a little bit of time. I'll go ahead and give my impressions here after many many hours of listening:

 

New pads presents a much stronger and a clearer case of treble and midrange. Midrange has especially gained a noticeable increase in quantity and quality. It has more texture and more detail. The treble is also clearer and not as muddled over by the bass. The bass has taken a step back around 100Hz, and it's not as bloomy overall. The bass is smoother overall tighter, controlled and really for intents and purposes can only be described as sounding "ortho". The texture and detail in bass is really hard to get from a dynamic driver, and the new pads really make the quality of the bass shine.  

 

I always thought the MD had a fifteen foot soundstage in each direction, which is pretty darn good for a closed headphone. Within the 15’, the instruments could be easily picked out in an exact position. With the new pads, that 15' wall seems to drop away and the space really stretches on. 

 

 

 

Here are some genre specific notes I jotted down

 

 

Electronic: (Track: Ovnimoon – Turn Off the Light)

Mad Dogs: More bass punch upfront. It’s subtle but definitely more powerful, but a little muddy.

Alphas: Bass is much more controlled, and shows transparency. Still powerful, impact and hard hitting, but not as bloomy as the mad dog pads.

 

Rock: (The XX – Sunset, The Airborne Toxic Event – Live album)

Mad Dogs: More presence in the strings. Indicates to me a slight kick over the alphas in the 80Hz-180Hz range

Alphas: Warmer, smoother presentation in vocals and all midrange/treble areas. The more controlled bass really benefits the bass guitars and classic stringed instruments to give them more texture. Clear improvement in instrument separation.

 

Jazz: (Jazz at the Pawnshop, Muddy Waters)

Mad Dogs: Separation is really shown in the Jazz mixes.

Alphas: Strong instrument separation and soundstage opening. Treble and midrange are much more balanced, and treble is definitely less fatiguing. Once again, love the string presence here.

 

Female Vocals: (Norah Jones, Joni Mitchel)

Mad Dogs: Recessed vocals, to the point where they start to sound a little thin

Alphas: Much more fullness, warmth, really an enjoyable presentation to listen to

 

 

My impressions are very similar except I definitely find the bass with the alphas to be a little looser and bloomier than with the dog pads.  Some may hear this as superior though.  That's really the only area where I might have some reservations.  The highs are definitely crisper yet non fatiguing.  The isolation is at least as good if not better than the dog pads.  They're comfy.  They smell nice and leathery!

 

Does anyone know if it's possible to experiment to try and cut some of the bass bloom back down by putting some (or all?) of the white foam back in with the alpha pads in place?

post #3287 of 6388

OK, per your requests here is a video demo, made with the help of my cat (who is always available to supervise), that shows how to swap the Dog Pad with the Alpha Pad:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6xT2UbATJQ

 

Anyhow, no expense was spared in the production of this video, as in nothing was spent, but I hope it makes it clear and easy.  If there are any other questions let me know.

 

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P.S. I think my cat is subtly lobbying for a new product called "Cat Paws."  Or maybe "Fat Cat."

post #3288 of 6388

Is there an issue with the Mr. Speakers website this evening? I've been trying to check out with a pair of Mad Dogs + Leather ALPHA Pads + Comfort Strap and can't get past the shopping cart page. Clicking on "Checkout" merely reloads the page and logs me out of my account if I'm logged in. IE10, Firefox, Chrome - same behavior with all three browsers.

post #3289 of 6388

I have been having incessant problems with the checkout process since ipage.com "upgraded" my security certificate.  

 

It's random, affects about 1/4 - 1/3 of users, and has not been resolved yet.  It may work for you tomorrow AM, or not.  

 

If this affects you I can manually process payments or take direct PayPal, just PM me.  Sincere apologies for any hassle.

post #3290 of 6388

Dan, perhaps until the issue is resolved you should put a notice on your website about the checkout problems and tell users to contact you directly like so. It's BS that you're having the problem, as a smooth checkout process can make that last 5% difference in whether someone purchases or not.

post #3291 of 6388
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P.S. I think my cat is subtly lobbying for a new product called "Cat Paws."  Or maybe "Fat Cat."

Pre-ordered!

post #3292 of 6388
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P.S. I think my cat is subtly lobbying for a new product called "Cat Paws."  Or maybe "Fat Cat."

Do you even have a dog after which to name products?

post #3293 of 6388
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post

I have been having incessant problems with the checkout process since ipage.com "upgraded" my security certificate.  

 

It's random, affects about 1/4 - 1/3 of users, and has not been resolved yet.  It may work for you tomorrow AM, or not.  

 

If this affects you I can manually process payments or take direct PayPal, just PM me.  Sincere apologies for any hassle.


Dan, there was another issue when I used Paypal at checkout, it calculated CA tax twice, once on your page and once on Paypal site.

The solution was to use Credit Card (Paypal) option, it still takes to Paypal but does not calculate tax, weird.

post #3294 of 6388
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Originally Posted by vaed View Post

Dan, perhaps until the issue is resolved you should put a notice on your website about the checkout problems and tell users to contact you directly like so. It's BS that you're having the problem, as a smooth checkout process can make that last 5% difference in whether someone purchases or not.

 

Good suggestion, I will.  I had hoped it would have been fixed, but...  mad.gif

post #3295 of 6388
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Dan, there was another issue when I used Paypal at checkout, it calculated CA tax twice, once on your page and once on Paypal site.

The solution was to use Credit Card (Paypal) option, it still takes to Paypal but does not calculate tax, weird.

 

Yes, that was fixed.  The old PayPal only option was turned off.  

post #3296 of 6388

NO!!! 

USPS tracking says my Alpha Pads were "missent."

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Edited by mechgamer123 - 2/11/13 at 9:57pm
post #3297 of 6388
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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post

NO!!! 

USPS tracking says my Alpha Pads were "missent."

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PM me, we''ll take care of it.

post #3298 of 6388
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post

PM me, we''ll take care of it.
Thank you very much!
Hopefully USPS will correct the issue and get them shipped to me soon.
Thanks for the awesome customer service again Dan!!!
post #3299 of 6388
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

 

1) Enhance clarity through the whole spectrum

 

2) Provide better presence in the mids

 

3) Further smooth the frequency response

 

4) Tighten and smooth the bass

 

5) Isolate even better

 

6) Provide soundstage on par with the best open phones

 

7) Improve dynamics at all volume levels, and sound better on lower-end amps/portable media players

 

 

I listened to these for 3 hours this morning and here are my thoughts regarding what the pads are trying to accomplish:

 

1/3) Clarity is improved though low frequencies can sometimes get drowned out from what I've noticed. Don't know if it is because of the extra distance and angle of the pads. Pearl Jam's Release is a good example of the bass guitar being very very quiet with the new pads but louder with the MD. Glorified G is another one where the mids seemingly overpower the bass, which I don't remember noticing with the MD. Then Dissident comes on and everything sounds right. Perhaps the recording? It's just a flac CD rip. Treble is on par with MD's. I'm very sensitive to treble and these do nothing to make the higher frequencies fatiguing which is something I loved about the MD.

 

2) Mids are brought noticeably forward

 

4) Bass is tightened and sounds more clear, but it isn't a huge difference. Seems very close to the MD. Maybe i can't hear it enough though :P

 

5) Definitely isolate much better

 

6) Soundstage is noticeably wider, but i'm not a soundstage guy so either way it's good to me :) I don't like instruments sounding super far away. 

 

7) Didn't like it at all on my FiiO E09K/E17 combo. Bass is better on the Magni/Modi and just sounds a more transparent. I listen to 9 o clock on the M/M and 10-11 on the FiiO.

 

Ears are not getting much warmer with these than the MD's here at work. I'm going to blame the space heater computer I have in my room.


Edited by nam3less - 2/12/13 at 10:36am
post #3300 of 6388

I got the Alpha Pads for my MDs in today. Thanks Dan for your willingness to do whatever it took to get the pads to me, but it turns out that it was just USPS screwing up. Anyway, I must say they're much more comfortable. Apparently my ears do stick out farther than I originally thought, so my ears were rubbing up against the sides of the dog pads and causing discomfort after a while. Other than that, not too much in the sound department changed, I think... I'll reserve opinions on it until I can get together with the only other local head-fi member here that has MDs as well.

I must say, right off the bat, I don't think much changed in the sound. These are still the Mad dog T50RPs we all loved. The treble and upper mids feel more "smooth" if you will. I'll report back after direct A/B comparisons.


Edited by mechgamer123 - 2/12/13 at 3:39pm
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