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Does anyone know the weight of the Mad Dogs w/ Alpha Pads?

 

I've read some compare the weight to the HE-400's (which were too heavy for me, so I'm wondering about the Mad Dogs....)

post #3257 of 6388

Amazing how well these Alpha-Pads isolate. Totally quiet house, 3 month only baby right next to me trying to sleep and me listen to some Pantera with foobar2k at 0.00db and my Magni at around 12 o' clock. She is totally unaffected ( normally would be if she heard noise).

 

Edit: Forgot to pause and took them off for a second with something playing = Mistake (angry baby)


Edited by Kamakahah - 2/11/13 at 12:03am
post #3258 of 6388

Make sure you have a good amp though. 100mW+100mW recommended. They are not as easy to drive as the Pro 900's. They are orthodynamic after all. Need some juice to move those drivers.

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Originally Posted by Bee inthe Attic View Post

Does anyone know the weight of the Mad Dogs w/ Alpha Pads?

 

I've read some compare the weight to the HE-400's (which were too heavy for me, so I'm wondering about the Mad Dogs....)

 

With the Alpha pads the MD have about the exact same curb weight as the he400. Right at 440 grams. 

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Just put my new Alpha Pads on .... I've been listening about 20 minutes.   At first I listened a bit with 1 side alpha, 1 side dog pad to see if I could detect a direct difference.   Alphas seem just a tad brighter. I detect the increased airiness described by others.  This seems related to  some very slight mid to high bass resonance that wasn't present before but it's very very slight.  A very slight trade off of tightness for airiness.   It would be interesting to do an A/B test ---- but the Alpha's are on and they're staying on!  I'd be interested in hearing others' impressions of a direct A/B test.

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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

Just put my new Alpha Pads on .... I've been listening about 20 minutes.   At first I listened a bit with 1 side alpha, 1 side dog pad to see if I could detect a direct difference.   Alphas seem just a tad brighter. I detect the increased airiness described by others.  This seems related to  some very slight mid to high bass resonance that wasn't present before but it's very very slight.  A very slight trade off of tightness for airiness.   It would be interesting to do an A/B test ---- but the Alpha's are on and they're staying on!  I'd be interested in hearing others' impressions of a direct A/B test.

Can you comment on the comfort between the two? or better yet can anyone comment on the comfort between the Shure pads and the Alpha?

post #3262 of 6388
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Can you comment on the comfort between the two? or better yet can anyone comment on the comfort between the Shure pads and the Alpha?


I don't know about the Shure pads, but initially I'm feeling a little bit extra clamp with alphas relative to the dog pads due to the increased thickness towards the rear.  They're both very comfortable though.

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I don't know about the Shure pads, but initially I'm feeling a little bit extra clamp with alphas relative to the dog pads due to the increased thickness towards the rear.  They're both very comfortable though.

Thanks for the input

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Can you comment on the comfort between the two? or better yet can anyone comment on the comfort between the Shure pads and the Alpha?

'Night and day'. The thickness of the Alpha's really improve the fit on the Mad Dogs in general.

 

Comparatively I feel the Shure pads needed a lot of fussing in order to get the snug type of 

fit I feel comfortable wearing for hours.

post #3265 of 6388
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'Night and day'. The thickness of the Alpha's really improve the fit on the Mad Dogs in general.

 

Comparatively I feel the Shure pads needed a lot of fussing in order to get the snug type of 

fit I feel comfortable wearing for hours.

Yea I felt the same about the Shures

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Oh man, sound impressions are tenative, but I'll say right now that the comfort on the Alphas are substantially better than the Dog Pads. I had an earlier mentioned problem with the DPs where my ears touched the foam of the drivers (my left ear protrudes outwards more than my right), and for some reason the fit just hurt my ears over time. The alphas have successfully fully surrounded my ears and they feel great. The weight distribution of the strap plus the pads make these feel almost like portables.

 

Due to the better fit, I'm hearing better resonation of bass frequencies. They are indeed a little brighter, as my former EQing of the treble with the DPs was a tad bit hot (but not tizzy) with the alphas on; I have to agree in that they've achieved better neutrality compared to the DP's yet retaining sonority.

 

But seriously? The luxuriousness and comfort of the leather was worth the price alone IMO. (Note: Honeymoon period)


Edited by vaed - 2/11/13 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

Just put my new Alpha Pads on .... I've been listening about 20 minutes.   At first I listened a bit with 1 side alpha, 1 side dog pad to see if I could detect a direct difference.   Alphas seem just a tad brighter. I detect the increased airiness described by others.  This seems related to  some very slight mid to high bass resonance that wasn't present before but it's very very slight.  A very slight trade off of tightness for airiness.   It would be interesting to do an A/B test ---- but the Alpha's are on and they're staying on!  I'd be interested in hearing others' impressions of a direct A/B test.

 

 

Well, I was away for most of the weekend, so I didn't want to post anything too long winded, but:

 

I have also had these pads now for a little bit of time. I'll go ahead and give my impressions here after many many hours of listening:

 

New pads presents a much stronger and a clearer case of treble and midrange. Midrange has especially gained a noticeable increase in quantity and quality. It has more texture and more detail. The treble is also clearer and not as muddled over by the bass. The bass has taken a step back around 100Hz, and it's not as bloomy overall. The bass is smoother overall tighter, controlled and really for intents and purposes can only be described as sounding "ortho". The texture and detail in bass is really hard to get from a dynamic driver, and the new pads really make the quality of the bass shine.  

 

I always thought the MD had a fifteen foot soundstage in each direction, which is pretty darn good for a closed headphone. Within the 15’, the instruments could be easily picked out in an exact position. With the new pads, that 15' wall seems to drop away and the space really stretches on. 

 

 

 

Here are some genre specific notes I jotted down

 

 

Electronic: (Track: Ovnimoon – Turn Off the Light)

Mad Dogs: More bass punch upfront. It’s subtle but definitely more powerful, but a little muddy.

Alphas: Bass is much more controlled, and shows transparency. Still powerful, impact and hard hitting, but not as bloomy as the mad dog pads.

 

Rock: (The XX – Sunset, The Airborne Toxic Event – Live album)

Mad Dogs: More presence in the strings. Indicates to me a slight kick over the alphas in the 80Hz-180Hz range

Alphas: Warmer, smoother presentation in vocals and all midrange/treble areas. The more controlled bass really benefits the bass guitars and classic stringed instruments to give them more texture. Clear improvement in instrument separation.

 

Jazz: (Jazz at the Pawnshop, Muddy Waters)

Mad Dogs: Separation is really shown in the Jazz mixes.

Alphas: Strong instrument separation and soundstage opening. Treble and midrange are much more balanced, and treble is definitely less fatiguing. Once again, love the string presence here.

 

Female Vocals: (Norah Jones, Joni Mitchel)

Mad Dogs: Recessed vocals, to the point where they start to sound a little thin

Alphas: Much more fullness, warmth, really an enjoyable presentation to listen to

post #3268 of 6388

Just put my Alpha Pads on and have been listening to the usual array of music (don't feel like listing it out).

 

At home I only have my FiiO E09K and E17 docked. I haven't listened to this combo in a long time so it sounds.. erm... weird. 

 

Alpha Pads isolate better. As for the "night and day" comfort difference, i'm not convinced. They aren't THAT much more comfortable. They do conform better due to the angle. They provide more clamp but are still comfortable. I can feel my ears getting warmer than the dog pads. I'll reserve that for tomorrow when I try to listen for 7 hours at work. The Dog Pads didn't even make my ears warm. These are making my ears warm after 3 songs :/

 

I'll reserve sonic observations for tomorrow as well. The FiiO combo doesn't sound good compared to the Magni/Modi :P Immediately when trying to listen I noticed a sort of more hollow or tinny sound that was even less bassy and recessed but i'm going to reserve final judgement for tomorrow when I get to my Magni/Modi. I'm attributing it ot the FiiO combo. It honestly sounds a bit off for now. The change to listening environment included Alpha Pads and then the FiiO combo.

post #3269 of 6388

The "night and day" difference was not in comparison to the Dog Pads which are similar enough to the Alpha's in comfort,

but instead, the comparison was to the 840 pads.

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^^ Lots of people saying the comfort is substantially different or WAY more comfortable. Night and day sort of stood out as a good phrase. Wasn't singling you out or anything. :)

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