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I can't remember reading anywhere on the Mr.Speakers website or here on the forums about caring for the Lamb Leather pads.

Now that I have my new MDs with the Alpha Pads (only had a little time to enjoy them so far =/ ) I want to make sure I take the best care of them that I can.

 

With my pair of M50s, whose pads (pleather) were prone to cracking and drying, I started using the sock mod for comfort and also to avoid putting my oils and sweat on the pads. This greatly helped preserve the pads until I replaced them with some Beyer velour pads.

 

I found some random information about caring for Lamb Leather, but its geared more towards clothing than ear pads.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5021827_care-lambskin-leather.html

 

Anyway, I plan on asking Dan for his advice, but if any of you have any insight, I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts/plans for your alphas.

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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post

I can't remember reading anywhere on the Mr.Speakers website or here on the forums about caring for the Lamb Leather pads.

Now that I have my new MDs with the Alpha Pads (only had a little time to enjoy them so far =/ ) I want to make sure I take the best care of them that I can.

 

With my pair of M50s, whose pads (pleather) were prone to cracking and drying, I started using the sock mod for comfort and also to avoid putting my oils and sweat on the pads. This greatly helped preserve the pads until I replaced them with some Beyer velour pads.

 

I found some random information about caring for Lamb Leather, but its geared more towards clothing than ear pads.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5021827_care-lambskin-leather.html

 

Anyway, I plan on asking Dan for his advice, but if any of you have any insight, I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts/plans for your alphas.

Been using Leather CPR for the Audez'e LCD's for quite a while now.

I've never had a problem with dirty pads nor pad wear.

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Been using Leather CPR for the Audez'e LCD's for quite a while now.

I've never had a problem with dirty pads nor pad wear.

 

Thanks, looks like that could work out well. I sent them a few questions about prolonged contact with skin after application.

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I actually don't know anything about skin-contact safe leather care.  My experience was with car products, and I'm not really sure how well that transfers over.  I know an expert, and will look into it...

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Thanks, looks like that could work out well. I sent them a few questions about prolonged contact with skin after application.

It's dermatologist tested and has never caused me any irritation, personally.

 

Edit: Furthermore, you could use beeswax, carnauba wax and orange oil,

per Audez'es recommendation, for example.


Edited by paradoxper - 2/7/13 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post

I actually don't know anything about skin-contact safe leather care.  My experience was with car products, and I'm not really sure how well that transfers over.  I know an expert, and will look into it...

Next up: Mad Dog Pad Polish! For when the canines need a little shine. 

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It's dermatologist tested and has never caused me any irritation, personally.

 

Edit: Furthermore, you could use beeswax, carnauba wax and orange oil,

per Audez'es recommendation, for example.

This is for wood, my friend. LOL biggrin.gif

 

But they do offer a Leather care kit http://audeze.com/leather-care-kit


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 2/7/13 at 10:43pm
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This is for wood, my friend. LOL biggrin.gif

Leather specific there are products such as Leather CPR, etc.

 

However It's also permissible to use on the pads themselves, again per Audez'es recommendations.

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Leather specific there are products such as Leather CPR, etc.

 

However It's also permissible to use on the pads themselves, again per Audez'es recommendations.


Why they have separate wood and leather care kits then? Wax on leather, that surely would be something. There are plenty skin safe leather care products, like ones used for gloves. I've used some automotive leather conditioner in the past with no ill effect, in general skin oil should be enough to keep leather nourished.

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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Why they have separate wood and leather care kits then? Wax on leather, that surely would be something. There are plenty skin safe leather care products, like ones used for gloves. I've used some automotive leather conditioner in the past with no ill effect, in general skin oil should be enough to keep leather nourished.

Most likely for specific applications. Both Carnauba and Beeswax are known to preserve leather.

 

The real question is do you even know what "ingredients" are used in either Audez'e kits?

 

Edit: I should note that Audez'e has recommended using the supplied wood oil for leather pad care as well, 

 

In which, is a blend of beeswax, carnauba wax, and orange oil. FYI.

 

Sorry to get so off topic.


Edited by paradoxper - 2/7/13 at 10:59pm
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Most likely for specific applications. Both Carnauba and Beeswax are known to preserve leather.

Never heard of this, sounds illogical to me. Leather care solution should soak the leather with some oil so to prevent cracking and keep it soft, same as skin moisturizer you use on your own skin, works on the same principle and most of the times use the same ingredients.

Carnauba wax dries out to hard film and good for solid, inflexible surfaces (wood, car paint, etc), i.e will start cracking if waxed surface flexes.

 

Audeze packs some oil into their Wood care kit, not wax, so I'd assume using that one on leather would have moisturizing effect, but I'd personally stick with specialized for the material solution.

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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post

Never heard of this, sounds illogical to me. Leather care solution should soak the leather with some oil so to prevent cracking and keep it soft, same as skin moisturizer you use on your own skin, works on the same principle and most of the times use the same ingredients.

Carnauba wax dries out to hard film and good for solid, inflexible surfaces (wood, car paint, etc), i.e will start cracking if waxed surface flexes.

 

Audeze packs some oil into their Wood care kit, not wax, so I'd assume using that one on leather would have moisturizing effect, but I'd personally stick with specialized for the material solution.

This goes back to the beginning of last year. An email response:

 

 

 

 

Carnauba and beeswax are both excellent for leather, however for wood itself, I thought it would be suspect. For wood you'd think an oil of some sort.

but Audez'e clearly states the wood care has Carnauba, so perhaps in the mixed blend the results are different, than if you were to use just one ingredient standalone.


Edited by paradoxper - 2/7/13 at 11:15pm
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Interesting...  I'll turn to my leather supplier and get back with a list of stuff that may do but will likely be a bit easier to procure than Audez'e oil...

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Do the new ear pads make your ear sweat at all? Were there any new changes to driver that would affect sound quality with this update?

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Been using Leather CPR for the Audez'e LCD's for quite a while now.

I've never had a problem with dirty pads nor pad wear.

 

Thanks I'll look into those as well. As far as the testing and MSDS page, its pretty vague. The dermatologist tested is merely a claim without verification. I'm not very concerned, just generally interested (Molecular Biologist biggrin.gif). Additionally, the MSDS page is nothing more than a basic telling of the known hazards of the chemicals used in the product and is prepared by the manufacturer themselves; In this case a manufacturer called "Wonder Marketing, Inc." It is unlikely any kind of extensive research was done because of cost and time restraints.

Regulation is light as long as the paper work looks fine, many things can pass by as an oversight.

 

The "main" ingredient used in Leather CPR is Lanolin. It's a natural grease that comes from sheep's wool. Sound okay, right? Well...

...a majority of the Lanolin used in products is contaminated with pesticides and insecticides which are carcinogens. 

There are a few companies out there that ensure their Lanolin is free of such contaminants through a purification process ($$), but it would be hard to verify who Leather CPR's supplier is.

Because it is impossible to obtain "organic" lanolin due to the nature of caring for sheep with pesticides/insecticides, only a purified version is available.

Unless you're allergic to Lanolin specifically it would be unlikely that you'd experience an immediate side effect; However, science has proven decade after decade that what was once considered safe in the past may be found damaging later. Just food for thought. I'll probably end up using it or a similar product o2smile.gif.

 

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Do the new ear pads make your ear sweat at all? Were there any new changes to driver that would affect sound quality with this update?

 

My ears usually get pretty warm with most closed cans. My M50's with the pleather on my skin was a hot mess. The MadDogs in comparison can get warm after a while, but I don't find myself sweating or having to remove them from heat discomfort. 

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