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post #3136 of 6388

I order my Mad Dogs about 5 days ago. In the morning I saw the changes to the website and wondered for a second, "will mine come with the alpha pads?" 

It is kind of ironic since I actually had the gall to ask him about future upgrades two days before I purchased them.

So the package arrived and Alpha Pads are on. Thanks to Dan for his amazing customer service and offering such a fantastic product.

 

Here are some quick snapshots to give perspective to size/depth of the new pads (which feel like pillows).

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! Pictures (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I have a large pair of ears. They are quite long, I hate to think of what they will be when I'm 60+, but they fit without problem in the new Alpha Pads.

The depth is also more than adequate for my ears. I was going to post a pick of my ear...but I changed my mind, beyersmile.png

 

Currently running them with a Magni/Modi combo. I'll do a review later. I just wanted to provide some info and sing praises to Dan.

post #3137 of 6388
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^^ Minus two for paradoxper for swearing. tongue.gif

 

I will quote a great man:

You can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time...Abraham Lincoln. 

I'm always thinking of you, Matt. Otherwise, my no swearing would be a lecture about how I'm a disappointment.

post #3138 of 6388

it's amazing that pads can change or improve the sound so much...looks like i'll be ordering these.

post #3139 of 6388
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Originally Posted by anoxy View Post

it's amazing that pads can change or improve the sound so much...looks like i'll be ordering these.

Mixing and matching ear pads is the easiest and one of the most effective ways to mod headphone's sound imo.

 

I love your avatar tongue.gif

 

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I'd be interested in knowing if these fit on Denons. :)

Now you have me curious rolleyes.gif


Edited by MadMolly - 2/7/13 at 4:42pm
post #3140 of 6388

are the mad dog headphones good for edm? i dont need whopping bass just refined and distinguished bass btw

post #3141 of 6388

I don't listen to EDM...but, they will give you just the kind of bass you're looking for as you've described it. 

post #3142 of 6388

How would the bass on these with the new pads compare to the HE-400 now Matt?

post #3143 of 6388
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Originally Posted by Ch1Kn View Post

are the mad dog headphones good for edm? i dont need whopping bass just refined and distinguished bass btw

Depends on your definition of "good." By mine, they're great for the few EDM tracks I have. If you're a basshead though, these might slightly disappointing. However, the bass is flat and has very low distortion. It is also very "quick" so faster tracks don't sound congested. The slam might be lacking by just a tiny bit, but I'm still using the Dog Pads. I ordered the Alpha pads though so I will let you know how they sound with the new Alpha pads. People have been saying that the bass has more slam though.

post #3144 of 6388

Agreed. Bass has good extension, is well textured and offers good punch. Overall the bass quality is among the best quality for a closed can that I've heard.

post #3145 of 6388

Wow...I knew that somebody would ask me that eventually. I used give the he400 a slight nod on visceral impact where bass is concerned. The new pads seem to have equalized that advantage. I would have never thought that the MD possessed the capability to do it. I assumed that the larger driver of the he400 would always have the advantage of bass prowess. 

 

I believe that's it's a combination of the new pads and the fact that the MD is closed that evens the playing field.

post #3146 of 6388

I find that with a good seal, the bass is fairly comparable with both pads. The new pads might sound cleaner with bass...I'm not 100% sure. Thing is, the new pads allow one to get a good seal more easily. It's nice either way.

post #3147 of 6388
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Wow...I knew that somebody would ask me that eventually. I used give the he400 a slight nod on visceral impact where bass is concerned. The new pads seem to have equalized that advantage. I would have never thought that the MD possessed the capability to do it. I assumed that the larger driver of the he400 would always have the advantage of bass prowess. 

 

I believe that's it's a combination of the new pads and the fact that the MD is closed that evens the playing field.

I just got HE-400 so I couldn't help but ask.  Overall I think my ears have gone leaps and bounds in appreciating bass quality more than I would have when I first started out.

post #3148 of 6388
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Originally Posted by SgtPepper View Post

 

1. True, but in this case we are just talking about a revision of the same product. If it were truly a new product, then it would make sense to promote it before release, as many companies do.

 

2. It makes sense that if you hint about a revision, people stop buying- Why would I have opted for the Dog Pad upgrade if I knew new and improved pads were coming out in a couple months for the same price? I would have just bought the standard version and waited for the Alpha pads. This is what frustrates many people about Apple's business model. At least in Apple's case, you have a better idea of when a new product is coming out so you can plan accordingly. 

 

3. I definitely appreciate this notion, but again I have to ask: Why should the Alpha pads be the same price for everyone? Someone with a stock T50RP pays the same as someone who bought the Mad Dog w/ Dog Pad upgrade a few months ago. That doesn't seem fair. If the Dog Pads had been standard, at no additional cost, I would understand why previous owners wouldn't get a discount. 

 

I realize that no one is forcing me to upgrade. I also recognize that this is a new business, and that you (Dan) have shown a real commitment to customer satisfaction. Again, I definitely appreciate that. I just wanted to voice some concerns I have with the way things are developing. If you are going to continually revise the product, I think it's fair that existing customers should have the option of upgrading at a discount price.

 

Thanks

 

 

The upgrade from the Dog Pads to the Alpha pads can be done by the end user.  For now it costs $45 for the pads.  You can't buy the new pads and just simply slap them onto a stock T50RP or the Shure 840 pad version of the Mad Dog.  The Dog Pad version of the Mad Dog has different internal dampening from the 840 pad Mad Dog, and it's wildly different from the stock T50RP.  When I upgrade my second pair, I will have to send them in to Dan for the upgrade, and it won't just cost me $45 for the pads (I had the Dog Pad version and 840 pad version and the DP version was upgraded to the Alpha pads in the beta group).  

 

So to reiterate the correction:  Someone with a stock T50RP or Shure 840 pad Mad Dog most definitely does not pay the same for the new Alpha Dog headphones.  Dog Pad owners pay $45 for the full upgrade to the Alpha Dog and don't even have to send their headphones in to Dan for the conversion.  840 Mad Dog owners pay $79.95 to upgrade to the Alpha Dog, and Stock T50RP owners will pay the $239.95 fee to upgrade a stock T50RP to the Alpha Dog (I'm fairly sure this is correct but the website still says Dog Pad for this option).

post #3149 of 6388

Personally I don't see why people are so concerned with what other people pay for a product, in regards to question No. 3.

post #3150 of 6388

Hey Dan, you mentioned something about a month's backwards upgrade allowance for those who just missed the upgrade a few pages back. I got mine with Dog Pads at Christmas from a family member, so does that mean that I'm eligible for a free upgrade (assuming you meant backwards from the date of January 10th)? I believe they were purchased around December 12th.

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